10 years from now... (was: internet futures)

Tue Mar 30 15:22:23 UTC 2021

Since FiOS still doesn't do ipv6 (I don't bother checking anymore) I've
used tunnelbroker since I was stuck on Comcast.
I'm not running BGP since that's overkill for my home lab needs. just a
tunnel with the /64 they give you and an addition /48.

If I have to renumber, there are maybe just 4-5 places where an ipv6 is
manually set. I'll just setup a new tunnel and change the router
advertisement settings.

- J

On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 4:53 AM <borg at uu3.net> wrote:

> So, I assume you have PI IPv6 space and doing BGP with HE?
> In other case, if anything will happen to HE (they close they
> tunnelbroker service) you will have to renumber.
>
>
> ---------- Original message ----------
>
> From: Javier J <javier at advancedmachines.us>
> To: borg at uu3.net
> Cc: nanog <nanog at nanog.org>
> Subject: Re: 10 years from now... (was: internet futures)
> Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2021 13:57:20 -0400
>
> I've had an IPV6 tunnel from Hurricane Electric for 10+ years I think.
> IPv4 will probably live as it does now in my network, mostly for management
> / interserver coms for legacy hardware/software that doesn't support ipv6.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2021 at 5:31 PM <borg at uu3.net> wrote:
>
> > Oh, sorry to disappoint you, but they are not missing anything..
> > Internet become a consumer product where data is provided by
> > large corporations similary to TV now. Your avarage Joe consumer
> > does NOT care about NAT and that he cant run services or he does NOT
> > have full e2e communication.
> >
> > Yes, you are right, NAT was a second class internet for a while but
> > now it seems that we cannot live without it anymore :)
> > I dont really see other way how I can connect LAN to internet now.
> > Using public IPs? Thats so terrible idea. How can I be el-cheappo
> > dual-homed then?
> >
> >
> > ---------- Original message ----------
> >
> > From: Mark Andrews <marka at isc.org>
> > To: Andy Ringsmuth <andy at andyring.com>
> > Cc: Grant Taylor via NANOG <nanog at nanog.org>
> > Subject: Re: 10 years from now... (was: internet futures)
> > Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2021 08:00:38 +1100
> >
> > There are more smart phones in use in the world today the world than can
> > be
> > addressed by IPv4. Complaining about lack of IPv6 deployment has been
> > legitimate for a long time. Telcos shouldn˙˙t have to deploy NATs. Homes
> > shouldn˙˙t have to deploy NATs. Businesses shouldn˙˙t have to deploy
> NATs.
> >
> > NATs produce a second class Internet.  We have had to lived with a second
> > class Internet for so long that most don˙˙t know what they are missing.
> --
> > Mark Andrews
> >
>
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