netflow in the core used for surveillance

J. Hellenthal jhellenthal at
Thu Aug 26 01:29:26 UTC 2021

Im finding this really hard to believe for the "Team Cymru" part at least. Being originally a provider of security centric configuration of network components... IOS ... Juniper etc... and maintaining such a high standard for years that they turn foot and resell/sell data on customer traffic obtained from other networks they themself are a customer of for resale of data. This feels like a hit job on a company that secures more than it insecures by gov't passage.

Not trying to start a flame war here but... what do you do to your most secure threat? (That has financial and influential aspects)... 


J. Hellenthal

The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.

> On Aug 25, 2021, at 16:13, Randy Bush <randy at> wrote:
> used to get dissidents, activists, and journos killed
> at&t, comcast, ... zayo, please tell us you do not do this.
> randy

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