IPv6 Pain Experiment

bzs at theworld.com bzs at theworld.com
Wed Oct 9 19:08:36 UTC 2019


On October 8, 2019 at 23:51 owen at delong.com (Owen DeLong) wrote:
(responding to my P.S.)

 >     P.S. My prediction?
 > 
 >     The world's major telcos et al, having had enough of various problems,
 >     from address exhaustion to non-stop security disasters, and the
 >     chaotic responses, propose and begin implementing an alternative. And
 >     that won't be through the IETF or similar.
 > 
 > 
 > I tend to doubt it.
 > 
 > While I don’t discount what you say about telcos below, the thing to remember
 > is that insisted that VOIP would never displace TDM in the average enterprise.
 > 
 > When was the last time you saw a business phone system using TDM and not
 > IP phones?

Sorry, I was referring to telcos as the major so-called "tier 1" and
long line providers, the cell phone service providers (along with the
likes of comcast but there aren't many like that), and in many
countries the monopoly providers of the whole, pardon the expression,
cloud of comm services, rather than their voice function which has
largely become just another app.

The big capitalization and generally government embedded
infrastructure players.

The problem is two-fold.

First they (the collective group I describe) honestly believe they can
manage large-scale engineering projects w/o the help of a lot of
volunteers beyond /fait accompli/ -- please stamp this new technology
we collectively have agreed to as a "standard". Compare and contrast
5G for example.

Second are the liability issues. They may generally manage to escape
direct liability e.g. for business damage due to address exhaustion or
security problems etc but insurance companies, banks, et al, can't and
those are big players with sway over the "telcos" to do something
about services they are paying collectively many billions per month
for and incurring damages from.

-- 
        -Barry Shein

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