RIPE our of IPv4

Sat Nov 30 17:18:53 UTC 2019

On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 11:46 AM Ca By <cb.list6 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> That said, google see nearly 40% of their traffic on  ipv6 in the usa ,
> growth trend looks strong
>
> https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html
>
> And
>
> Comcast (71%), Charter (52%), VZ (85%),  ATT (60 and 78%) , and T-Mobile
> (95%) have the majority of their subs on ipv6
>
> https://www.worldipv6launch.org/measurements/
>

Verizon is an interesting case.  While IPv6 penetration on the wireless
side is very high, the same is not true on the Fios/DSL side.  IPv6
deployment there is nearly nonexistent.
I've heard rumblings that some early Fios users will need to have their
ONTs replaced to be able to get v6, regardless if the router itself
supports it.  I don't know if this is true, because I've never been able to
get a straight/authoritative answer from Verizon.

While a tunnel from HE works perfectly well, it would be nice to have
native v6 from VZ.

jms

> Sadly, ipv6 is creating a bifurcation of the internet.  Scale shops have
> v6, and non-scale shops don’t. The big players are pulling away, and that
> makes things bleak for the folks just trying to tread water in ipv4.
>
>
>>
>> Frankly, I'm surprised anti-IPv6 people still have employment.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> Midwest-IX
>> http://www.midwest-ix.com
>>
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From: *"Brian Knight" <ml at knight-networks.com>
>> *To: *"Mark Andrews" <marka at isc.org>
>> *Cc: *"nanog" <nanog at nanog.org>
>> *Sent: *Friday, November 29, 2019 10:29:17 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: RIPE our of IPv4
>>
>>
>> > On Nov 27, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Mark Andrews <marka at isc.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> >> On 28 Nov 2019, at 06:08, Brian Knight <ml at knight-networks.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> On 2019-11-26 17:11, Ca By wrote:
>> >>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 12:15 AM Sabri Berisha <sabri at cluecentral.net
>> >
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>> ----- On Nov 26, 2019, at 1:36 AM, Doug Barton dougb at dougbarton.us
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> [snip]
>> >>>> there is no ROI at this point. In this kind of environment there
>> needs to
>> >>>> be a strong case to invest the capex to support IPv6.
>> >>>> IPv6 must be supported on the CxO level in order to be deployed.
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Sabri, (Badum tsss) MBA
>> >>> I see....well let me translate it you MBA-eese for you:
>> >>> FANG deployed ipv6 nearly 10 years ago. Since deploying ipv6, the
>> cohort
>> >>> experienced 300% CAGR. Also, everything is mobile, and all mobile
>> providers
>> >>> in the usa offer ipv6 by default in most cases. Latency! Scale! As
>> your
>> >>> company launches its digital transformation iot 2020 virtualization
>> >>> container initiatives, ipv6 will be an integral part of staying
>> relevant on
>> >>> the blockchain.  Also, FANG did it nearly 10 years ago.  Big content
>> and
>> >>> big eyeballs are on ipv6, ipv4 is a winnowing longtail of irrelevance
>> and
>> >>> iot botnets.
>> >>
>> >> None of which matters a damn to almost all of my business eyeball
>> customers.  They can still get from our network to 100% of all Internet
>> content & services via IPv4 in 2019.
>> >
>> > No you can’t.  You can’t reach the machine I’m typing on via IPv4 and
>> it is ON THE INTERNET.  It is directly reachable via IPv6.  Selling
>> Internet connectivity without IPv6 should be considered fraud these days.
>> Don’t
>> > you believe in “Truth in Advertising”?
>>
>> I had meant to write “They can still get from our network to 100% of all
>> Internet content and services that matter to them [our customers] via
>> IPv4...”
>>
>> 0% of my IPv4-only customers have opened tickets saying they cannot reach
>> some service that is only IPv6 accessible. So if they do care about IPv6
>> connectivity, they haven’t communicated that to us.
>>
>> > Mark Andrews, ISC
>> > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/1+Seymour+St.,+Dundas+Valley,+NSW?entry=gmail&source=g>
>> 2117, Australia
>> > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742              INTERNET: marka at isc.org
>> >
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Brian
>>
>>
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