FW: softlayer.com

Fri Mar 22 14:47:14 UTC 2019

Traceroute from here if it helps

Tracing route to 138-43-128-1.reserved.highland.net [138.43.128.1]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  [REDACTED]
  2    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  [REDACTED]
  3     1 ms     1 ms    <1 ms  [REDACTED]
  4     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  [REDACTED]
  5     6 ms     6 ms     6 ms  v313.core1.mci3.he.net [216.218.213.141]
  6    16 ms    16 ms    16 ms  100ge10-2.core1.dal1.he.net [184.105.81.206]
  7    26 ms    26 ms    26 ms  xo-as15-as2828.10gigabitethernet6-7.core1.dal1.he.net [184.105.255.78]
  8    40 ms    39 ms    40 ms  207.88.14.198.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.14.198]
  9    40 ms    39 ms    40 ms  207.88.12.178.ptr.us.xo.net [207.88.12.178]
10    39 ms    39 ms    39 ms  216.156.16.239.ptr.us.xo.net [216.156.16.239]
11    48 ms    48 ms    48 ms  ip65-46-198-198.z198-46-65.customer.algx.net [65.46.198.198]
12    41 ms    41 ms    41 ms  occm-6.dhcp.grp1-rng1.tncsvl.blomand.net.57.131.192.in-addr.arpa [192.131.57.6]
13     *        *        *     Request timed out.

Thanks
Travis

From: NANOG <nanog-bounces at nanog.org<mailto:nanog-bounces at nanog.org>> On Behalf Of Siyuan Miao
Sent: Friday, March 22, 2019 9:22 AM
To: Nikolas Geyer <nik at neko.id.au<mailto:nik at neko.id.au>>
Cc: nanog at nanog.org<mailto:nanog at nanog.org>
Subject: Re: softlayer.com

Perhaps it won't work because their customer support will ask you for bi-directional traceroute and refused to forward to backbone team.

Then they'll say it's not their fault and you can see the packet is dropped outside our network.

Here's a sample traceroute from SoftLayer Washington, San Jose and Seattle in case someone needs it:

aveline at iad02-sl01:~$ mtr 138.43.128.1 --report-wide
Start: Fri Mar 22 17:20:42 2019
HOST: iad02-sl01                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1.|-- [REDACTED]                                 0.0%    10    1.4   1.5   0.8   3.7   1.0
  2.|-- ae13.dar02.wdc01.networklayer.com<http://ae13.dar02.wdc01.networklayer.com>          0.0%    10    0.5   3.3   0.4  28.6   8.8
  3.|-- ae9.bbr01.eq01.wdc02.networklayer.com<http://ae9.bbr01.eq01.wdc02.networklayer.com>      0.0%    10    0.8   0.8   0.7   1.0   0.0
  4.|-- eqix-dc5.intellifiber.com<http://eqix-dc5.intellifiber.com>                  0.0%    10    0.8   1.2   0.8   2.2   0.3
  5.|-- ae13-0.cr02.asbn01-va.us.windstream.net<http://ae13-0.cr02.asbn01-va.us.windstream.net>    0.0%    10    0.9   0.9   0.9   1.0   0.0
  6.|-- ae11-0.cr01.atln02-ga.us.windstream.net<http://ae11-0.cr01.atln02-ga.us.windstream.net>    0.0%    10   15.6  16.1  15.6  17.4   0.5
  7.|-- ae0-0.pe06.atln02-ga.us.windstream.net<http://ae0-0.pe06.atln02-ga.us.windstream.net>     0.0%    10   17.4  16.1  15.9  17.4   0.3
  8.|-- h43.88.198.64.static.ip.windstream.net<http://h43.88.198.64.static.ip.windstream.net>     0.0%    10   24.7  24.8  24.6  24.9   0.0
  9.|-- east.tndodge-21.static.tncsvl.blomand.net<http://east.tndodge-21.static.tncsvl.blomand.net>  0.0%    10   22.6  22.8  22.5  23.8   0.0
 10.|-- ???                                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0

aveline at sjc03-sl01:~$ mtr 138.43.128.1 --report-wide
Start: Fri Mar 22 16:21:04 2019
HOST: sjc03-sl01                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1.|-- [REDACTED]                                 0.0%    10    2.4   2.0   0.3  14.3   4.3
  2.|-- ae0.dar02.sjc01.networklayer.com<http://ae0.dar02.sjc01.networklayer.com>           0.0%    10    1.0   0.5   0.3   1.3   0.0
  3.|-- ae9.bbr01.eq01.sjc02.networklayer.com<http://ae9.bbr01.eq01.sjc02.networklayer.com>      0.0%    10    0.8   0.8   0.7   0.9   0.0
  4.|-- eqix-sv1.windstream.com<http://eqix-sv1.windstream.com>                    0.0%    10    0.9   0.9   0.8   1.1   0.0
  5.|-- ae6-0.cr02.lsaj01-ca.us.windstream.net<http://ae6-0.cr02.lsaj01-ca.us.windstream.net>     0.0%    10   11.6  11.5  11.5  11.6   0.0
  6.|-- ae-11-0.cr01.dlls01-tx.us.windstream.net<http://ae-11-0.cr01.dlls01-tx.us.windstream.net>   0.0%    10   42.6  42.7  42.5  43.4   0.0
  7.|-- ae7-0.cr02.atln02-ga.us.windstream.net<http://ae7-0.cr02.atln02-ga.us.windstream.net>     0.0%    10   64.0  65.6  63.9  74.2   3.4
  8.|-- ae1-0.pe06.atln02-ga.us.windstream.net<http://ae1-0.pe06.atln02-ga.us.windstream.net>     0.0%    10   62.3  62.7  62.2  66.9   1.5
  9.|-- h43.88.198.64.static.ip.windstream.net<http://h43.88.198.64.static.ip.windstream.net>     0.0%    10   71.9  72.0  71.9  72.2   0.0
 10.|-- east.tndodge-21.static.tncsvl.blomand.net<http://east.tndodge-21.static.tncsvl.blomand.net>  0.0%    10   69.9  68.8  68.6  69.9   0.3
 11.|-- ???                                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0

aveline at sea04-sl01:~$ mtr 138.43.128.1 --report-wide
Start: Fri Mar 22 08:19:09 2019
HOST: sea04-sl01                                Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1.|-- [REDACTED]                                 0.0%    10    0.7   1.2   0.7   1.8   0.0
  2.|-- ae12.dar02.sr01.sea01.networklayer.com<http://ae12.dar02.sr01.sea01.networklayer.com>     0.0%    10    0.6   0.7   0.5   1.3   0.0
  3.|-- ae9.bbr01.wb01.sea02.networklayer.com<http://ae9.bbr01.wb01.sea02.networklayer.com>      0.0%    10    1.2   1.0   0.7   1.5   0.0
  4.|-- six.seattle-wa.us.windstream.net<http://six.seattle-wa.us.windstream.net>           0.0%    10    1.5   1.0   0.7   1.7   0.0
  5.|-- ae12-0.cr01.chcg01-il.us.windstream.net<http://ae12-0.cr01.chcg01-il.us.windstream.net>    0.0%    10   41.1  41.2  41.0  41.6   0.0
  6.|-- ae17-0.cr02.chcg01-il.us.windstream.net<http://ae17-0.cr02.chcg01-il.us.windstream.net>    0.0%    10   41.1  41.4  41.1  42.0   0.0
  7.|-- ae10-0.cr01.atln02-ga.us.windstream.net<http://ae10-0.cr01.atln02-ga.us.windstream.net>    0.0%    10   63.8  64.4  63.5  71.1   2.3
  8.|-- ae0-0.pe06.atln02-ga.us.windstream.net<http://ae0-0.pe06.atln02-ga.us.windstream.net>     0.0%    10   63.7  63.7  63.5  64.0   0.0
  9.|-- h43.88.198.64.static.ip.windstream.net<http://h43.88.198.64.static.ip.windstream.net>     0.0%    10   71.6  71.8  71.5  72.8   0.0
 10.|-- east.tndodge-21.static.tncsvl.blomand.net<http://east.tndodge-21.static.tncsvl.blomand.net>  0.0%    10   71.8  70.8  70.2  71.8   0.3
 11.|-- ???                                       100.0    10    0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0   0.0

Regards,
Siyuan Miao

On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 10:10 PM Nikolas Geyer <nik at neko.id.au<mailto:nik at neko.id.au>> wrote:
This is the best approach. Have run into this problem a few times and had zero success getting the filters removed without having SL customers log tickets with support. Verbiage needs to be “this prefix is blocked, please escalate to your backbone team”.

Sent from my iPhone

On Mar 22, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <lists at packetflux.com<mailto:lists at packetflux.com>> wrote:
Another idea...

Have you tried reaching out to some of the blocked sites?  They likely have better contact information than is available publicly, especially a larger one like indeed.

On Thu, Mar 21, 2019, 3:41 PM John Alcock <john at alcock.org<mailto:john at alcock.org>> wrote:
Still looking for anyone from softlayer.com<http://softlayer.com>

It has been a challenge.  Anything hosted by softlayer.com<http://softlayer.com> is being blocked.

Here is a small list so far

windowbook.tpondemand.com<http://windowbook.tpondemand.com>
ahainstructornetwork.americanheart.org<http://ahainstructornetwork.americanheart.org>
clover.com<http://clover.com>
Cebroker.com<http://Cebroker.com>
Softlayer.com<http://Softlayer.com>
indeed.com<http://indeed.com> & Enforce Staffing

It is growing every day.

John

On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 12:35 PM John Alcock <john at alcock.org<mailto:john at alcock.org>> wrote:
Afternoon,

Thought I would start a new thread.  After researching, traceroutes, etc, I think I found my problem.

9 out of the 10 sites that subscribers on my new block is being hosted by softlayer.

Anyone on the list have contacts with softlayer.  Right now I have an email to abuse.  The support line will not help me out.

John
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