Enough port 26 talk...

Sun Jan 13 00:28:02 UTC 2019

What Jason said in red.

On 1/12/19 6:07 PM, Jason Hellenthal via NANOG wrote:
> Honestly, you feel very highly of your work in which any of us do in
> this field but John has a very good point and constructive criticism
> shroud not be the down fall of anyone. Read it 100 times without
> taking any thought of your own work and try to see the whole picture.
>
> Not agreeing with John or you but it is very straight forward and
> industry leading. It’s polite. I would feel the proper response from
> you would be to acknowledge the feedback and ask for some correction
> and guidance as John has had a lot of involvement here as so many others. 
>
> He is not saying what you are doing is bad or such but more of
> guidance in a more proper direction so delusions are not set in the
> future.
>
> The whole picture of any outcome is not only had by just one person
> trying to make a difference but by the whole for a greater good for
> which makes sense for the current architectures and policies that are
> in place.
>
> I solute both you and John plus the community at which contribute
> highly valuable aspects to evolving “our” beat practices and judgements.
>
> Whether it’s positive or negative or proof of concept, it is how we
> get to where we “think” we should be.
>
> Criticism is how we get there regardless.
>
> Let’s cut out the other non-sense and discontinue this thread and work
> positively instead of against one-another. 
>
> -- 
>  J. Hellenthal
>
> The fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to Heaven
> says a lot about anticipated traffic volume.
>
> On Jan 12, 2019, at 17:26, Cummings, Chris <ccummings at coeur.com
> <mailto:ccummings at coeur.com>> wrote:
>
>> Can we please have a mod step in and shut this thread down? Any
>> conversation of value is long gone. 
>>
>> /Chris
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 5:25 PM -0600, "Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan"
>> <giri at dombox.org <mailto:giri at dombox.org>> wrote:
>>
>>     I don't know why you are all try to defend a man who try to
>>     silence my work.
>>
>>     Are you saying this thread is necessary?
>>
>>     On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 4:46 AM Töma Gavrichenkov
>>     <ximaera at gmail.com <mailto:ximaera at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>         On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 12:51 AM Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan
>>         <giri at dombox.org <mailto:giri at dombox.org>> wrote:
>>         > 5 months back I posted my spam research on DMARC list.
>>         > You have gone through only 50 words and judged my work.
>>         > The whole thread gone haywire because of you. I was
>>         > humiliated there and left.
>>
>>         By the way, since that you've left no traces of whatever
>>         piece of work
>>         you've posted to that list. The website is empty, slides are
>>         removed
>>         from Speakerdeck, etc.
>>
>>         In theory, I can easily recall a few cases in my life when going
>>         through just 50 words was quite enough for a judgment.
>>
>>         > To be very honest, I don't like you.
>>
>>         Please keep our busy mailing list out of this information,
>>         though for
>>         me it's a valuable piece of data that someone I don't know
>>         personally
>>         doesn't like someone else.
>>
>>         > Although I don't like you, I still managed to respond
>>         politely in
>>         > IETF lists. Again... In that list the only thing you did was
>>         > attacking my work.
>>
>>         So, I've read the whole thread, and, as far as I can see,
>>         there was
>>         nothing coming from John except for a balanced judgement.
>>
>>         > And then please tell me this man is not biased at all.
>>
>>         Sorry, he's not.
>>
>>         --
>>         Töma
>>
>>
>>
>>     -- 
>>     Best Regards,
>>
>>     Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan
>>     Dombox, Inc.
>>
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