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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/12/19 6:07 PM, Jason Hellenthal
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Honestly, you feel very highly of your work in which any of us do
in this field but John has a very good point and constructive
criticism shroud not be the down fall of anyone. Read it 100 times
without taking any thought of your own work and try to see the
whole picture.
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<div>Not agreeing with John or you but it is very straight forward
and industry leading. It’s polite. I would feel the proper
response from you would be to acknowledge the feedback and ask
for some correction and guidance as John has had a lot of
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<div>He is not saying what you are doing is bad or such but more
of guidance in a more proper direction so delusions are not set
in the future.</div>
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<div>The whole picture of any outcome is not only had by just one
person trying to make a difference but by the whole for a
greater good for which makes sense for the current architectures
and policies that are in place.</div>
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<div>I solute both you and John plus the community at which
contribute highly valuable aspects to evolving “our” beat
practices and judgements.</div>
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<div>Whether it’s positive or negative or proof of concept, it is
how we get to where we “think” we should be.</div>
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<div>Criticism is how we get there regardless.</div>
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<div><font color="#ff0000">Let’s cut out the other non-sense and
discontinue this thread and work positively instead of against
one-another. </font><br>
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<span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The
fact that there's a highway to Hell but only a stairway to
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On Jan 12, 2019, at 17:26, Cummings, Chris <<a
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<div style="direction: ltr;">Can we please have a mod step
in and shut this thread down? Any conversation of value
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jan 12, 2019 at 5:25 PM
-0600, "Viruthagiri Thirumavalavan"
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<div dir="ltr">I don't know why you are all try to
defend a man who try to silence my work.
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<div>Are you saying this thread is necessary?</div>
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<div dir="ltr">On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 4:46 AM Töma
Gavrichenkov <<a
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On Sun, Jan 13, 2019 at 12:51 AM Viruthagiri
Thirumavalavan<br>
<<a href="mailto:giri@dombox.org"
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> 5 months back I posted my spam research on
DMARC list.<br>
> You have gone through only 50 words and
judged my work.<br>
> The whole thread gone haywire because of you.
I was<br>
> humiliated there and left.<br>
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By the way, since that you've left no traces of
whatever piece of work<br>
you've posted to that list. The website is empty,
slides are removed<br>
from Speakerdeck, etc.<br>
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In theory, I can easily recall a few cases in my
life when going<br>
through just 50 words was quite enough for a
judgment.<br>
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> To be very honest, I don't like you.<br>
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Please keep our busy mailing list out of this
information, though for<br>
me it's a valuable piece of data that someone I
don't know personally<br>
doesn't like someone else.<br>
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> Although I don't like you, I still managed to
respond politely in<br>
> IETF lists. Again... In that list the only
thing you did was<br>
> attacking my work.<br>
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So, I've read the whole thread, and, as far as I
can see, there was<br>
nothing coming from John except for a balanced
judgement.<br>
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> And then please tell me this man is not
biased at all.<br>
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Sorry, he's not.<br>
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