Re: China ’s Maxim – Leave No Access Point Unexploited: The Hidden Story of China Telecom’ s BGP Hijacking

Sun Dec 2 01:14:16 UTC 2018

On Sat, Dec 1, 2018 at 4:28 PM Randy Bush <randy at psg.com> wrote:

> >>>>> They forgot to mention that it's technically possible to filter
> >>>>> advertisements from their customer. Which apparently they were/are
> >>>>> not really doing.
> >>>>
> >>>> luckily, CT is the only isp not doing good filtering, or we would
> >>>> be having mis-originations and route leaks every day.  oh, wait.
> >>>
> >>> Perhaps what you meant to say here was:
> >>
> >> “Then you should say what you mean,” the March Hare went on.
> >>
> > I know. I guess my point was: "Hey, maybe now we can get people's
> > attention?"
>
> my point is that over 20 years of continuing mis-originations and leaks
> seem not to move the needle very far.  heck, you were jacked/leaked
> maybe ten or so days ago in about the same way you were jacked/leaked
> some time back.  and you will be again.
>
> and those mean, nasty, godless, commie, ... chinese have no worse
> hygiene than 94.3% of the internet.  non-chinese just love to get
> hysterical and accusatory when some prc isp does what almost everyone
> else is doing multiple times a day.
>
> and focusing on china telecom is a red herring, because damned near
> everyone leaks.  and it is the everyone who has to change.  doughnut,
> hole.
>
> randy

Never waste a good outage to get buy-in for resources to get something good
done.

And if you have to pull that natsec fire alarm to move rpki to enforcing or
dropping networks with repeated bad hygiene, so be it

>
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