[outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

Thu Oct 13 12:49:20 UTC 2011

Any idea of when Apple's ActiveSync Implementation will close the gap
with what BES does?

Like maybe having Important message notifications? Categories? Filters?

I use an iPhone, but mail handling on it is lacking.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Huff [mailto:mhuff at ox.com] 
Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 8:44 AM
To: 'Jamie Bowden'; 'Joe Abley'
Cc: 'nanog at nanog.org'
Subject: RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

It's called Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync :) 

It works with Android, Apple and Microsoft devices. I believe both Lotus
and Groupwise have licensed and support it as well. We have a few (but
now, very few) blackberry users remaining. They won't let it go until we
rip it out of their hands.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jamie Bowden [mailto:jamie at photon.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:36 AM
> To: Joe Abley
> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> Subject: RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
> 
> You are correct.  The BES uses PSKs to talk to RIM's servers, which
then
> uses them to talk to the devices over the carrier networks.  All of
this
> was in complete failure mode until sometime overnight when it appears
to
> have all started flowing again.  Someday either Google or Apple will
get
> off their rear ends and roll out an end to end encrypted service that
> plugs into corporate email/calendar/workgroup services and we can all
> gladly toss these horrid little devices in the recycle bins where they
> belong.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley at hopcount.ca]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:06 PM
> > To: Phil Regnauld
> > Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> > Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
> >
> >
> > On 2011-10-12, at 18:02, Phil Regnauld wrote:
> >
> > > Joe Abley (jabley) writes:
> > >>
> > >> On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)
> > >>
> > >> The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of
> > processing intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use the
> > core as a simple transport and shift the processing intelligence to
> the
> > edge have different, less-dramatic failure modes.
> > >
> > > 	This is not the case for corporate customers with dedicated
> > servers,
> > > 	AFAIU.
> >
> > I'm no expert, but my understanding is that at some/most/all traffic
> > between handhelds and a BES, carried from the handheld device
through
> a
> > cellular network, still flows through RIM.
> >
> >
> > Joe