[outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide

Thu Oct 13 12:43:34 UTC 2011

It's called Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync :) 

It works with Android, Apple and Microsoft devices. I believe both Lotus and Groupwise have licensed and support it as well. We have a few (but now, very few) blackberry users remaining. They won't let it go until we rip it out of their hands.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jamie Bowden [mailto:jamie at photon.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 7:36 AM
> To: Joe Abley
> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> Subject: RE: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
> 
> You are correct.  The BES uses PSKs to talk to RIM's servers, which then
> uses them to talk to the devices over the carrier networks.  All of this
> was in complete failure mode until sometime overnight when it appears to
> have all started flowing again.  Someday either Google or Apple will get
> off their rear ends and roll out an end to end encrypted service that
> plugs into corporate email/calendar/workgroup services and we can all
> gladly toss these horrid little devices in the recycle bins where they
> belong.
> 
> Jamie
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Joe Abley [mailto:jabley at hopcount.ca]
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 6:06 PM
> > To: Phil Regnauld
> > Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> > Subject: Re: [outages] News item: Blackberry services down worldwide
> >
> >
> > On 2011-10-12, at 18:02, Phil Regnauld wrote:
> >
> > > Joe Abley (jabley) writes:
> > >>
> > >> On 2011-10-12, at 13:05, Leigh Porter wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Email on my iPhone is working fine.. ;-)
> > >>
> > >> The blackberry message service is centralised with a lot of
> > processing intelligence in the core. Messaging services that use the
> > core as a simple transport and shift the processing intelligence to
> the
> > edge have different, less-dramatic failure modes.
> > >
> > > 	This is not the case for corporate customers with dedicated
> > servers,
> > > 	AFAIU.
> >
> > I'm no expert, but my understanding is that at some/most/all traffic
> > between handhelds and a BES, carried from the handheld device through
> a
> > cellular network, still flows through RIM.
> >
> >
> > Joe