Cisco moves even more to china.

Alexei Roudnev alex at relcom.net
Fri Sep 24 05:08:31 UTC 2004


Support, do not support... In realiity, Cisco today is not Cisco 5 years ago - it rapidly became very common and fat
company. One of the reasons - outsourcing (instead of having 10 good engineers here, they use 100 bad engineers in
India... /not beause Indians are worst, but because having 100 engineers, you will always have most of them bad).

So, let's just wait a little.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe Johnson
  To: nanog at merit.edu
  Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:15 PM
  Subject: Re: Cisco moves even more to china.


  While it is certainly an operational issue if there are no operators left (or on the flip side, too many), I think
even that is quite a stretch.



  Perhaps the economic discussion can be completed elsewhere?



  Joe Johnson




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  From: owner-nanog at merit.edu [mailto:owner-nanog at merit.edu] On Behalf Of Joseph
  Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:24 PM
  To: nanog at nanog.org
  Cc: Suresh Ramasubramanian
  Subject: Re: Cisco moves even more to china.



  Hello Suresh,



    I appreciate and respect your opinion.  Please offer me that same respect in kind.  I am aware of the fact of our
diverse global economy and only think as many in US do we should be fair and equitable to all parties WORLDWIDE.



  Respectfully yours,

  Joseph

  Suresh Ramasubramanian <suresh at outblaze.com> wrote:

    Joseph [23/09/04 18:53 -0700]:
    > Don't Support Outsourcing

    I suggest you lead by example.

    > Don't buy from companies that outsource US jobs. Be very vocal and

    Now please go unplug all your cisco and juniper equipment.

    Then open up your servers and remove all the RAM / hard disks etc that are
    made in Malaysia / Taiwan etc.

    Oh wait - check the labels on your clothes. The last Macy's I visited had a
    whole lot of shirts / trousers / underwear that had US brand names but were
    all made in Vietnam / China / Bangladesh etc. You might want to strip them
    off and wear just your own, all american skin.

    Sheesh. Please take it to Lou Dobbs, or if you have any more rational
    arguments than these to advocate what looks like a boycott of cisco
    equipment, please take it to somewhere like Dave Farber's IP .. lots of
    posters there love to beat this dead horse even more than you do.

    srs


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