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<DIV><FONT size=2>Support, do not support... In realiity, Cisco today is not
Cisco 5 years ago - it rapidly became very common and fat company. One of the
reasons - outsourcing (instead of having 10 good engineers here, they use 100
bad engineers in India... /not beause Indians are worst, but because having 100
engineers, you will always have most of them bad).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2>So, let's just wait a little. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jjohnson@jmdn.net href="mailto:jjohnson@jmdn.net">Joe Johnson</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=nanog@merit.edu
href="mailto:nanog@merit.edu">nanog@merit.edu</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:15
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Cisco moves even more to
china.</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">While it is certainly
an operational issue if there are no operators left (or on the flip side, too
many), I think even that is quite a stretch.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Perhaps the economic
discussion can be completed elsewhere?<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=Arial color=navy size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: Arial">Joe
Johnson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma">From:</SPAN></FONT></B><FONT
face=Tahoma size=2><SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: Tahoma"> <A
href="mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu">owner-nanog@merit.edu</A>
[mailto:owner-nanog@merit.edu] <B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">On Behalf Of
</SPAN></B>Joseph<BR><B><SPAN style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</SPAN></B>
Thursday, September 23, 2004 9:24 PM<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></B> nanog@nanog.org<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc:</SPAN></B> Suresh Ramasubramanian<BR><B><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: Cisco moves even more to
china.</SPAN></FONT><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"><o:p> </o:p></SPAN></FONT></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Hello Suresh,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> <o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt"> I appreciate and respect your
opinion. Please offer me that same respect in kind. I am
aware of the fact of our diverse global economy and only think as many in
US do we should be fair and equitable to all parties WORLDWIDE.
<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Respectfully yours,<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><FONT face="Times New Roman" size=3><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Joseph<BR><BR><B><I><SPAN
style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold; FONT-STYLE: italic">Suresh Ramasubramanian
<suresh@outblaze.com></SPAN></I></B>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></DIV>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt">Joseph [23/09/04 18:53 -0700]:<BR>> Don't Support
Outsourcing<BR><BR>I suggest you lead by example.<BR><BR>> Don't buy from
companies that outsource US jobs. Be very vocal and<BR><BR>Now please go
unplug all your cisco and juniper equipment.<BR><BR>Then open up your
servers and remove all the RAM / hard disks etc that are<BR>made in
<st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on">Malaysia</st1:country-region></st1:place> / Taiwan etc.<BR><BR>Oh
wait - check the labels on your clothes. The last Macy's I visited had
a<BR>whole lot of shirts / trousers / underwear that had US brand names but
were<BR>all made in <st1:country-region
w:st="on">Vietnam</st1:country-region> / <st1:place
w:st="on"><st1:country-region
w:st="on">China</st1:country-region></st1:place> / Bangladesh etc. You might
want to strip them<BR>off and wear just your own, all american
skin.<BR><BR>Sheesh. Please take it to Lou Dobbs, or if you have any more
rational<BR>arguments than these to advocate what looks like a boycott of
cisco<BR>equipment, please take it to somewhere like Dave Farber's IP ..
lots of<BR>posters there love to beat this dead horse even more than you
do.<BR><BR>srs<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE>
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