Whoa; the 3 network?

Tue Dec 23 20:30:11 UTC 1997

If *I* were in charge of renumbering maybe I would consider that.  But,
since GE, arrgghh, *we* do use the public internet as a transport to get
to/from the corporate wan based on location, duration of connection
needed, etc.  Also, we are renumbering the smaller components into
3.0.0.0/8, but there is already a tremendous amount of numbered devices.
Also, I guess I should stop responding to these jabs now.  :-)

-v

> -----Original Message-----
> From:	Eric Germann [SMTP:ekgermann at cctec.com]
> Sent:	Tuesday, December 23, 1997 2:50 PM
> To:	Bono, Vinny (CAP, ITS, US)
> Cc:	nanog at merit.edu
> Subject:	RE: Whoa; the 3 network?
> 
> If you're in the process of renumbering, why not renumber into 10/8?
> Does
> Jane Pauley need her own gloabally routable IP address?  Number of
> employees <> number of addresses.  
> 
> I suppose if you think about it, ping flooding Tom Brokaw's
> teleprompter
> during the Nightly News would be kind of cool.  Of course, this could
> be
> the spiked eggnog talking too....
> 
> Happy Holidays,
> 
> Eric
> 
> 
> At 12:03 PM 12/23/97 -0600, you wrote:
> >
> >Well, GE is the largest corporation in the world.  The total
> employees
> >in all seven divisions and their components is just over 1.7 million.
> >That is a lot.  Add in all the IP devices in NBC's network alone and
> >you've got a huge number of justifiable space right there.  Further,
> >they, uh sorry, we, :-)  are renumbering all acquired companies into
> the
> >3.0.0.0/8 range and returning the historic class B's (i.e. Ameridata,
> >Bodan, etc.).  
> >
> >Vincent J. Bono
> >Comstor Corporation
> >A GE Capital Service Company
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From:	Adam Rothschild [SMTP:asr at millburn.net]
> >> Sent:	Tuesday, December 23, 1997 7:09 AM
> >> To:	Alex Rubenstein
> >> Cc:	nanog at merit.edu
> >> Subject:	Re: Whoa; the 3 network?
> >> 
> >> Funky discovery...  question is, why does GE need such massive addr
> >> space?
> >> :)
> >> 
> >> -=asr
> >> 
> >> On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
> >> 
> >> > 
> >> > Maybe I should be sleeping rather than examining BGP tables, but:
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > whi4#sho ip bgp 3.156.20.0
> >> > BGP routing table entry for 3.156.20.0/24, version 449977
> >> > Paths: (1 available, best #1, advertised over IBGP)
> >> >   7372 701 3561 1221
> >> >     207.99.5.196 from 207.99.5.196 (208.210.32.17)
> >> >       Origin incomplete, localpref 500, valid, external, best
> >> >       Community: 666
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > traceroute to 3.156.20.1 (3.156.20.1), 30 hops max, 40 byte
> packets
> >> > .
> >> > .
> >> >  5  telstra.SanFrancisco.mci.net (166.48.19.250)  332.535 ms
> >> 538.669 ms 365.308 ms
> >> >  6  Fddi0-0.pad-core1.Sydney.telstra.net (139.130.249.226)
> 290.266
> >> ms 317.40 ms  290.209 ms
> >> >  7  Hssi6-0.lon-core1.Melbourne.telstra.net (139.130.249.214)
> >> 350.701 ms 339.90 ms  439.199 ms
> >> >  8  Fddi0-0.lon11.Melbourne.telstra.net (139.130.239.234)
> 419.291
> >> ms 424.309 ms  283.243 ms
> >> >  9  power2.lnk.telstra.net (139.130.49.114)  403.623 ms  353.911
> ms
> >> 307.750 ms
> >> > 10  203.36.142.146 (203.36.142.146)  348.695 ms  310.482 ms
> 301.917
> >> ms
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > [root at newspeer1 /root]# whois 3.0.0.0  
> >> > General Electric Company (NET-GE-INTERNET)
> >> >    One Independence Way
> >> >    Princeton, NJ  08540
> >> > 
> >> >    Netname: GE-INTERNET
> >> >    Netnumber: 3.0.0.0
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> 
> >
> >
> 
> 
> ======================================================================
> ======
> ====
> Eric Germann				Computer and Communications
> Technologies
> ekgermann at cctec.com			Van Wert, OH 45891
> 					Phone:	419 968 2640
> http://www.cctec.com			Fax:	419 968 2641
> 
> Network Design, Connectivity & System Integration Services 
> A Microsoft Solution Provider					

begin 600 winmail.dat
M>)\^(@X4`0:0"``$```````!``$``0>0!@`(````Y`0```````#H``$(@`<`
M&````$E032Y-:6-R;W-O9G0 at 36%I;"Y.;W1E`#$(`02``0`9````4D4Z(%=H
M;V$[('1H92`S(&YE='=O<FL_`-@'`0F``0`A````1C<Y,S at Q1C-!.3="1#$Q
M,4(W,S$P,#8P,#@R-C!$.#4`Z08!((`#``X```#-!PP`%P`.`!X`"@`"`"\!
M`06``P`.````S0<,`!<`#@`>``L``@`P`0$-@`0``@````(``@`!`Y`&`%@/
M```I````"P`"``$````#`"X``````$``.0#`@%61X0^]`1X`<``!````%0``
M`%=H;V$[('1H92`S(&YE='=O<FL_``````(!<0`!````&P````&]#]MW!-X=
ME<E[N1'1G$X(``G*%+\``6VVP``"`0D0`0```+0*``"P"@``/1(``$Q:1G4I
MS""O`P`*`')C<&<Q,C72,@#[,S8!Z"`"I`/C"0(`8V@*P'-E=#`>(`<3`H,`
M4!!6<')QWC(160Y0`]4197T*@`C(["`["6\.,#45?PI@`H#9"H%U8P!0"P-C
M`$$+8")N#A`P,S,+IB!)@&8@*DDJ('<$D%1E(`N`(!#29QK`;W,:,!;@;G4&
MT`9Q&3`@/0#`>1P`&A`:@`A@;&1/&P`"(`"0!($@=!#@=``N("!"=70L(,D`
MD&YC&L!'11Z`"L#1&T!G:&@>@"H:D!IP<&1O('41$!W1&L!P[G4"8`W@&M%T
M!)$1(!\PU00 at 81W0<@!Q<`D1'=#W(#`;4"*B+P-2((,%H2)QZQX`&L!W`Y%B
M(=`)@!MP:P.@"0!C'@!I`B`>@&3?"'`EDQMR'5$AD&,F0R&0+PF`"8`>@!$@
M8QXA06S\<V\>@!J0'S$:P!NZ()*R<P#`;&P=L06@;2)P'R&0`C`$("%!(#`S
M+C#I*[(O.!Z`8AY@(((:LD4AX6P6X&%D>2'S9;T'@&X@("!0'S`$8'4",.\;
M<AO4)0$!`'8-X`>0*">='-!G"E`$$1S0<V@=`_IS(L!P&Z$B82X0*:,@,!L@
MD2!A:@&@!"!N;W=Q'B$Z+2D*H at J$"H`M_G8T*@KT(0`/,1C!`4`2H`YO(6`G
M$!'D,38 at +?4WPD\%$&<+@`=`!=`PX?YA&U`WPS0F-M0VH0L3-M9@:2TQ-#0!
M0"$`,1PX,`%`#-`[8V(@1M4#83H, at V(10$4%$"$@#D<$D`.!`Z!;4TU4,%`Z
M96L;4#WS0&/K)Q`%D"XJH5TT)3R0!F!K`C`\]U0PT60<@!Z`1$<%D"W@'`$@
M,C,>@#%(.3DW0F`Z-1%`4-)-/_=4;SSW0@(@*($*5 at N`;BV`*$-!4,DP at 513
M'H!54S06/)"<0V,\]SA@,Y!G0`>`OP40'A`)@`QP0`<@X&HG`4$\]U)%.B!7
M,5!A*CL@@S,G870<\')K_C\Y;SIZ-B83D1.2#`$T,_4:(7D(8"<:M""3`V`O
MX?<$(!N,*)%H+8`SD`5`&[:7*T094"P0/QXP1&\'D$TT)$H`<!K`4&$=$&5;
M48$G at 2`LH1MP=P. at 9_\)``&@*D$M@`-@'F`!H"I at I1H04!\P9&0R`7-3`3Y.
M4A0;@#0D+>`+4&]Y\PG@!"`\/B\%&W)6Q2_S\S0J,2%U<")P(&$&D$[R^QW1
M"X!K'S`&X"QA2"`>@/IP'#)F"0`$<!PR1``CD,)"`V!K87<G!"`A8'\J8#;!
M*L`A830D)@$IID[Y.#!H=%71!\$$(!ST'*&^:PN`)1$FH@;P'B%/)J+_"'`1
M$!Z`7%$$(&-18=,T).LIXUU0:R4!91]P1[$=T&<'0&(Q,I)O+F;1-"I(=F%;
M@"V`2`;P'9`<@'/>+#0J/8(U#@J`005`#B"N.AE at 0T%K`2]"<"]"T;0M,`]`
M,!Z`7!)W-M*K//`T,SYM15=?$&P>@/\?`"SB()(+8!M!,;`CYR92[T]U2T$=
M(!XA5""A(L!F(?\GX%AF;44:X2I!'I`OL`GP_2`0:2_``)`=81\P8E$@D?9I
M*HP$(&H at 4"[!<X`%P/0Q+D+@;0,0(0`"(&<%OCYQ4!X`+.,E41X205;0/QK2
M<R(@DE:1+Z4:TDY"_D->T4L5+1$JX712;45/`L]S@"+ at 4;$B`&AU&U%9*/]U
MX@:0!S!64B)@`-`I`6#BNRR$'B%&"'`LDFBU/B"1V4&Q=6@>D`6P<D&Q&I`_
M'H`S\1XP*.YS(@#0<77_=-`E`2JB`'`(D"LU()%M1=\KIQN@&2%[HQNA=`AP
M`P!O*;5CX2+`/9)C"V`$$4+97M$H:4A`'B!!1_)!D+\!D("61+!!D"71)_(I
M6E?O;:9%$1[0+K%*'B!$LFU%O0A0;8A"1M!ON&U%06YR_D-GX$@@.'$&82_"
MCF&$DOYY;4R1SVUR60`WSSC=DW'_/+=XH2YP!_$=X`3P7&`=(7L^5"'0<D?@
M=M$L4`2 at +K\AD3_EDW%`AT%/0EDW:S`^.1%00V63<40%*$%E>/\'\"#@"?`Q
ML'3`CQ99`$;E_T>/F/=)*0?P;2!*3TM8DW%[E4 at NH&LM@#)@!/!V,GG_9M$>
M,(0`;V%P(VB at 45,@(/\'D6Z!5)-;8!#0'&$$$'/0WRC!5M&3%W[CHP at Z-!6C
M>OPM/9?1J@]C$`. at FA$>@/]"<)J20J,>@)U-;-RCB:^[[DT<A3%%'*%S*F!?
M,!PR_R1!5.(=X0. at G6`N<`N`'#+\0D=6H%8SIA$L4:\XK[_CMC518&DT(S%!
M&M`QX`QB9S'@*Z`Q-38N_P'0*["U^;1"5@(IHU9#*P'?@=!=D`6QN%AKP#0>
M@'9![70"(#MP0L$WM?E4();AZ:&P*#$?,'8+<`M at 5E'3+#%O8B,Q'R%D=D$E
MH'LD\W9"2;1!J?A9`!XP-]8S`<";L#"^8#.X at +Y@/0X@,AACP5<>,`'0-R[I
M0L`N-;A at .3>@(V/#^QHH`=`XN*`94"XS,OVX8#?!#,.BD_0:T2JB*F"W(6`>
M@"5B;!*@`1`@0R#O;'&^D&A1)]%X(6('0+\46\;?C?%M+J!(('FAL#;_S1"U
M_\VOSK at B(1[05@)Q<JNX2+Y@*-#H*1Z`,Q%`[3%0<`0@`,!X'H`[@"3`_GDD
M87[Q97`K(,ZI=S;4KM_)H!XP7P$QL"(P+ at 81/+#E`'!CI*(N;=>0F)*^0?G-
M$"XTQA!"L+B at 0R""<?L9<,:`-<)P'&#4*-G`QA#OS1";\(X0*Y`VQ&#2<(:`
MG]H)P:$WH#R at 5M!I,&PPTBX*L&0M!:%E=H`&L-YD(9"E$-:FV#0SQ$#?4"<K
MP+P0V0$R-H)Q,CG_W['-*=LRQJ#8L!%`VS'@9-^;X=OL0N!H(*?!-MU!>W'_
MW:64@)A`"&$AD-Y_WX@[8/^I^,)P*\#",MLRWV'@@.(#?C3?8D+`V]V&@-SG
M>W$Q?^3OY?_?84)PYU#I0=CR.7O"^-LQ-+P0VY';$T)@./\KH+P02O#;[)OP
M(,`SH`20_<:`;%R`[&_?@]_AZZ#N(_\98-K at K1'B$L)P*Z#NL.AB^^=XQ`$W
M0R';ZQE0P](KH/\/,+A@[Y#X4<7#^!K94MC!_]L`V>+98<9!V,`2T/3SPD#?
M]6&]*-OK_*^P,UL#8#;@5D`AD&%P<`G@<KY at +^G^PETC45%O+/$KI8N7W[!"
M/=`AD"(P@\!%*F`G$(<]DI#E16!.150M'P#`+4E.5$52`W'&S7^LD!RQ+A!?
M,"X!"?`>T5=['(###%`<(1[0(L`ET4[V2AXPQ@`U.X'];\-U85#^=)1`+?"A
ML`.Y"6]2!*&P?RNE"+\-[P[_HX=M2S0J/?\2WQ/O%/\6#Q:%$GAI*#W&_ST#
M&6F0T]!Q*H!T8LQE)83U>!!43$!H,Y!X4)0 at 4U;W/K_,<!F;5B2A;B"`0$*0
MY$](O,`U..ZV&5Z6([Y0,5"8H)84[F'QH#:&@#_@(`B6-G$W4#%P5-!T=.!P
M.B\O=R30/Z`=]^]-PC%P/`$9N4;3`")O(%;_-#,*07L3K4"\@&700I"-\,]%
M,$Q!<]',T"`FF6!HD._(T%Y0!9#(T&=O]9!E>!!?:H6Q(`*P7U"!H&:_8%/_
M:$"Z`7`Q!W!V,,HP7Z$@WRM$430S?36@`##`'@`Q0`$````.````5D)/3D\V
M-D(T,D(V.`````,`&D``````'@`P0`$````.````5D)/3D\V-D(T,D(V.```
M``,`&4```````P`V```````+``2`""`&``````#`````````1@`````#A0``
M``````,`!H`((`8``````,````````!&`````!"%`````````P`!@`@@!@``
M````P````````$8`````4H4``+<-```>``*`""`&``````#`````````1@``
M``!4A0```0````0````X+C```P`#@`@@!@``````P````````$8``````84`
M```````+``6`""`&``````#`````````1@`````.A0````````,`!X`((`8`
M`````,````````!&`````!&%`````````P`(@`@@!@``````P````````$8`
M````&(4````````>``F`""`&``````#`````````1@`````VA0```0````$`
M````````'@`*@`@@!@``````P````````$8`````-X4```$````!````````
M`!X`"X`((`8``````,````````!&`````#B%```!`````0`````````#`"8`
M``````,`@!#_____`@'Y/P$```!;`````````-RG0,C`0A`:M+D(`"LOX8(!
M````!@```"]//4=%+T]5/4-!4$E404Q)5%,O0TX]4D5#25!)14Y44R]#3CU-
M4TU!24Q03R]#3CU60D].3S8V0C0R0C8X```>`/@_`0```!L```!";VYO+"!6
M:6YN>2`H0T%0+"!)5%,L(%53*0``'@`X0`$````.````5D)/3D\V-D(T,D(V
M.`````(!^S\!````6P````````#<IT#(P$(0&K2Y"``K+^&"`0````8````O
M3SU'12]/53U#05!)5$%,2513+T-./5)%0TE0245.5%,O0TX]35--04E,4$\O
M0TX]5D)/3D\V-D(T,D(V.```'@#Z/P$````;````0F]N;RP at 5FEN;GD@*$-!
M4"P at 2513+"!54RD``!X`.4`!````#@```%9"3TY/-C9"-#)"-C@```!```<P
M8+_&+>$/O0%```@P<&V1D.$/O0$>`#T``0````4```!213H@`````!X`'0X!
M````%0```%=H;V$[('1H92`S(&YE='=O<FL_``````L`*0``````"P`C````
M```#``80MY\'PP,`!Q!)"@```P`0$``````#`!$0`````!X`"!`!````90``
M`$E&*DDJ5T5214E.0TA!4D=%3T9214Y534)%4DE.1TU!64)%25=/54Q$0T].
M4TE$15)42$%40E54+%-)3D-%1T4L05)21T=(2"PJ5T4J1$]54T542$5054),
124-)3E1%4DY%5$$`````T]X=
`
end