Do ISP's collect and analyze traffic of users?

Tue May 16 13:41:01 UTC 2023

Our ISP does not collect (nor obviously sell) customer
information/traffic.  People volunteer all of their information on
Facebook/Twitter/etc already, I'm not sure I see a concern.

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 9:07 AM Tom Beecher <beecher at beecher.cc> wrote:

> I did see an article about Team Cymru selling netflow data from ISPs to
>> governments though.
>>
>
> Team Cymru sold the same thing to the FBI Cyber Crimes division that any
> of us could purchase if we wanted to pay for it.
>
> On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 8:52 AM Rishi Panthee <rishipanthee at ryamer.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I’ve got Akvorado and netflow to identify where traffic comes in/goes to
>> so we can improve our peering and make less traffic go via transit. I did
>> see an article about Team Cymru selling netflow data from ISPs to
>> governments though.
>> https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy3z9a/fbi-bought-netflow-data-team-cymru-contract
>>
>>
>> Rishi Panthee
>> Ryamer LLC
>> Https://ryamer.com
>> rishipanthee at ryamer.com
>>
>>
>> On May 15, 2023, at 5:59 PM, Michael Thomas <mike at mtcc.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> And maybe try to monetize it? I'm pretty sure that they can be compelled
>> to do that, but do they do it for their own reasons too? Or is this way too
>> much overhead to be doing en mass? (I vaguely recall that netflow, for
>> example, can make routers unhappy if there is too much "flow").
>>
>> Obviously this is likely to depend on local laws but since this is NANOG
>> we can limit it to here.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
>>
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