Do ISP's collect and analyze traffic of users?

Tom Beecher beecher at beecher.cc
Tue May 16 13:07:05 UTC 2023


>
> I did see an article about Team Cymru selling netflow data from ISPs to
> governments though.
>

Team Cymru sold the same thing to the FBI Cyber Crimes division that any of
us could purchase if we wanted to pay for it.

On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 8:52 AM Rishi Panthee <rishipanthee at ryamer.com>
wrote:

> I’ve got Akvorado and netflow to identify where traffic comes in/goes to
> so we can improve our peering and make less traffic go via transit. I did
> see an article about Team Cymru selling netflow data from ISPs to
> governments though.
> https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy3z9a/fbi-bought-netflow-data-team-cymru-contract
>
>
> Rishi Panthee
> Ryamer LLC
> Https://ryamer.com
> rishipanthee at ryamer.com
>
>
> On May 15, 2023, at 5:59 PM, Michael Thomas <mike at mtcc.com> wrote:
>
>
> And maybe try to monetize it? I'm pretty sure that they can be compelled
> to do that, but do they do it for their own reasons too? Or is this way too
> much overhead to be doing en mass? (I vaguely recall that netflow, for
> example, can make routers unhappy if there is too much "flow").
>
> Obviously this is likely to depend on local laws but since this is NANOG
> we can limit it to here.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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