FCC proposes higher speed goals (100/20 Mbps) for USF providers

Thu May 26 21:18:21 UTC 2022

 	Hello Jason & All ,

On Thu, 26 May 2022, Livingood, Jason via NANOG wrote:

>> Latency is a limitation for things that are generally relatively low bandwidth (interactive audio, zoom, etc.).
>> Higher bandwidth won?t solve the latency problem
>
> +1

 	You Mean something a little less than ...

                                        My traceroute  [v0.94]
replaceme (192.168.253.147) -> Snipped                   2022-05-26T13:06:34-0800
Keys:  Help   Display mode   Restart statistics   Order of fields   quit
                             Packets               Pings
              Host           Loss%    Snt Drop   Rcv   Last  Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
  1. ...Snip...
  2. AS???    192.168.251.1   0.0%    89    0    89    1.3   1.3   0.8   1.9   0.2
  3. AS???    10.5.5.227      1.1%    89    1    88  227.5 123.9  31.1 276.5  69.8
  4. AS???    10.5.5.185      2.2%    89    2    87   43.5  48.7  28.5  72.0  10.3
  5. AS???    10.5.21.241     1.1%    89    1    88   36.6  40.3  30.5  64.3   5.7
  6. AS???    10.128.88.234   2.2%    89    2    87   52.9  39.8  31.8  63.8   5.3
  7. AS???    10.128.128.125  10.1%   89    9    80   42.5  40.0  29.6  55.7   4.7
  8. AS???    10.128.118.217  72.7%   89   64    24   36.7  39.6  29.7  49.8   4.8
  9. AS???    10.128.0.166    31.5%   89   28    61   60.0  58.8  45.8  86.5   8.0
10. AS???    10.128.0.170    85.2%   89   75    13  101.1  81.7  70.7 101.1   9.7
...snip...

 	Oh ,  Sorry you were talking about latncy not Packet loss .
 	While I do understand that icmp responses ARE Low priority the above 
still gives some useful info .  IMO Packet losses like the above are far worse 
than latency ,  But as far as an eyeball networks users experience makes 
absolutely no difference .

> IMO as we enter the 'post-gigabit era', an extra 1 Gbps to the home will 
matter less than 100 ms or 500 ms lower working latency (optimally sub-50 ms, 
if not sub-25 ms). The past is exclusively speed-focused -- the future will be

> Speed + working latency + reliability/resiliency + consistency of QoE + 
> security/protection + WiFi LAN quality.

 	One more set of nit's ,  "security/protection" by who's standard should 
this be taken from ,  Eyeball users ,  Eyeball network Operators ,  His 
upstreams ,  US Gov ,  Nato , ... ?

 	Where can each of those mentioned in the above have their input listened 
too & acted apon ?

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