Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine
bzs at theworld.com
bzs at theworld.com
Thu Mar 3 07:26:44 UTC 2022
Here's a page with about 25 dial-up ISPs in Ukraine:
If I go to www.ua.net, as one try, they list dial-up services and
The point being that dial-up internet is not unknown in Ukraine.
And even if these domestic dial-up services get blocked if the phone
system is still working those people can open and use a non-Ukrainian
dial-up internet account.
Obviously anything there involves some risk.
On March 3, 2022 at 02:10 bzs at theworld.com (bzs at theworld.com) wrote:
> 1. They don't have to wait or hope for a starlink terminal to arrive.
> They just have to dig out an old serial modem or system with one built
> in (they were common), find a phone line which will support that, and
> figure out how to get a dial-up account and use it. Like most of the
> world did ~20 years ago and many still do.
> I don't know how many starlink terminals were sent to Ukraine but it's
> probably not millions. Millions might be able to figure out how to
> dial-up though since that's what everyone used not that long ago and
> for all I know many might still use there.
> 2. Unless the Russians have control of the phone systems and whatever
> it takes to isolate modem transmissions they can't just "sweep the
> air" like they can for starlink frequencies.
> This page (October 5, 2019) claims there are over 12M landlines in
> On March 3, 2022 at 17:45 kauer at biplane.com.au (Karl Auer) wrote:
> > On Thu, 2022-03-03 at 01:12 -0500, bzs at theworld.com wrote:
> > > If Ukrainians wanted internet access and to get around blocking it'd
> > > probably be more effective to dig out old serial modems and get PPP
> > > dial-up accounts outside the country where phone service that will
> > > support that still exists.
> > How on Earth is that "more effective"?
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