Starlink terminals deployed in Ukraine

bzs at bzs at
Thu Mar 3 07:10:47 UTC 2022

1. They don't have to wait or hope for a starlink terminal to arrive.

They just have to dig out an old serial modem or system with one built
in (they were common), find a phone line which will support that, and
figure out how to get a dial-up account and use it. Like most of the
world did ~20 years ago and many still do.

I don't know how many starlink terminals were sent to Ukraine but it's
probably not millions. Millions might be able to figure out how to
dial-up though since that's what everyone used not that long ago and
for all I know many might still use there.

2. Unless the Russians have control of the phone systems and whatever
it takes to isolate modem transmissions they can't just "sweep the
air" like they can for starlink frequencies.

This page (October 5, 2019) claims there are over 12M landlines in

On March 3, 2022 at 17:45 kauer at (Karl Auer) wrote:
 > On Thu, 2022-03-03 at 01:12 -0500, bzs at wrote:
 > > If Ukrainians wanted internet access and to get around blocking it'd
 > > probably be more effective to dig out old serial modems and get PPP
 > > dial-up accounts outside the country where phone service that will
 > > support that still exists.
 > How on Earth is that "more effective"?
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