Amazon peering revisited

Sat Feb 5 00:38:35 UTC 2022

Hi all,

We (Amazon) have made improvements over the last few years to significantly
improve our NOC and Peering response times, as well as the time it takes to
set up a peering session, whether over IX or direct PNI/SFI.

If you don't get a response from the respective Peering mailing address
listed on our PeeringDB https://peeringdb.com/net/1418 , feel free to email
me privately and I'll get in touch with the right folks internally.

Regards,
Andras

On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 9:40 AM Martin Hannigan <hannigan at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> There are also three different ASNs and different policy decision trees;
> they all report selective criteria such as minimum of 10GE, multiple
> locations, specific locations, etc. Not sure it's as simple as 'getting the
> right person' more than it is about meeting the right conditions. Easier
> for network operators. Enterprises may be different (and better off with
> their upstreams or PacketFabric).
>
> YMMV,
>
> -M<
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 5:30 PM Mike Hammett <nanog at ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> "For a company like Amazon..."
>>
>> True, but also, they're at a size where staffing and operating peering
>> operations generously has a negligible impact on the fiscal situation of
>> the company (or even department).
>>
>>
>>
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>> *From: *"Kevin Burke" <kburke at burlingtontelecom.com>
>> *To: *"Lincoln Dale" <ltd at interlink.com.au>, "Kelly Littlepage" <
>> kelly at onechronos.com>
>> *Cc: *nanog at nanog.org
>> *Sent: *Friday, February 4, 2022 3:25:53 PM
>> *Subject: *RE: Amazon peering revisited
>>
>> Have gotten into the habit of making annual peering requests to Amazon
>> asking turn up a session on a shared IXP peering.  Once was able to get a
>> peering session turned up, no traffic was ever shifted onto it before we
>> moved out of that carrier hotel a year or so later.  The amazon peering
>> email box does have humans surfing it.
>>
>>
>>
>> Over the years a number of network operators have mentioned getting
>> little response from Amazon about peering requests.
>>
>>
>>
>> For a company like Amazon they have little reason to do peering with
>> small scale operators.  They already peer with the tier 1’s and assume I
>> will do what I need to balance my bits.  The fancy algorithms they use to
>> balance traffic around does allow them to operate a decent network with
>> fewer staff and less links to the small ISPs.  Just a network operator
>> here, trying to get my bytes across the wire.
>>
>>
>>
>> Enjoy your weekend!
>>
>>
>>
>> Kevin Burke
>>
>> 802-540-0979
>>
>> Burlington Telecom
>>
>> 200 Church St, Burlington, VT
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* NANOG <nanog-bounces+kburke=burlingtontelecom.com at nanog.org> *On
>> Behalf Of *Lincoln Dale
>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 3, 2022 12:20 PM
>> *To:* Kelly Littlepage <kelly at onechronos.com>
>> *Cc:* nanog at nanog.org
>> *Subject:* Re: Amazon peering revisited
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 8:22 AM Kelly Littlepage via NANOG <
>> nanog at nanog.org> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all, a nanog thread started on November 23, 2018 discussed the
>> challenges of getting Amazon peering sessions turned up. Has anyone had
>> luck since/does anyone have a contact they could refer me to — off-list or
>> otherwise? The process of getting PNI in place with other CSPs was
>> straightforward, but I haven't heard back from AWS after a month and
>> several follow-ups. Our customers would really benefit from us getting this
>> sorted.
>>
>>
>>
>> There are many folks that here that are in AWS. Assuming you have
>> followed what is in https://aws.amazon.com/peering/ (and
>> https://aws.amazon.com/peering/policy/) then send me details privately
>> about what/when/who and I'll reach out internally to the relevant folks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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