the ipv4 vs ipv6 growth debate

Tue Dec 6 15:02:24 UTC 2022

Of course for those, yes. I was speaking more generally. Sorry if that
wasn't clear.

On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 3:12 PM Jorge Amodio <jmamodio at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> Well hard for them to establish an ipv6 connection, none of the domains
> for the urls I posted have an aaaa record :-)
>
> -J
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 1:02 PM Tom Beecher <beecher at beecher.cc> wrote:
>
>> But IPv6Foo , ast least as far as I could tell by quickly looking at the
>> code, cannot tell you if an IPv6 connection WOULD have worked, but IPv4 is
>> where it ended up.
>>
>> With Happy Eyeballs, if the IPv4 TCP session finishes up only a couple ms
>> faster than the IPv6 ones, the v4 one wins out. That doesn't give you any
>> meaningful signal as to WHY it landed on IPv4 instead.
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:32 PM Jorge Amodio <jmamodio at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> With IPv6Foo you can click on the icon and it will show you a table
>>> listing what URLs are serving some piece of a given page with v6 and v4.
>>>
>>> LinkedIn for example shows the main feed page served via v6 but there
>>> are a couple of pieces with v4 from these sites
>>>
>>> - dpm.demdex.net
>>> - lnkd.demdex.net
>>> - p.adsymptotic.com
>>> - radar.cedexis.com
>>> - sb.scorecardresearch.com
>>> - trkn.us
>>>
>>> Some may be feeding ads content, others tracking, market research, etc.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> Jorge
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:09 AM Tom Beecher <beecher at beecher.cc> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Often lost in the 'debate' about V6 adoption is that for a 100% native
>>>> IPv6 experience to work, there are multiple other components that have
>>>> nothing to do with the network that ALSO have to work correctly. Any issues
>>>> with these are likely going to cause fallback to v4.
>>>>
>>>> It's very difficult to know how much v4 traffic to a website COULD have
>>>> worked just fine on v6, but didn't, and why it didn't.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 7:16 PM Matt Corallo <nanog at as397444.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> It would be nice if IPvFoo showed the bytes and connection/request
>>>>> count. It's going to be a
>>>>> loonnggg time before we can do consumer internet browsing with no v4,
>>>>> until then it's about reducing
>>>>> cost of CGNAT with reduced packets/connections.
>>>>>
>>>>> For twitter, the main site is v4, yea, but abs.twimg.net (Edgecast)
>>>>> and pbs.twimg.net (Fastly) make
>>>>> up the vast majority of the bytes fetched on the site for me and are
>>>>> both v6 now. I don't recall
>>>>> when I last checked but they were still v4-only not too long ago.
>>>>>
>>>>> The other end of it is v6-only servers that don't accept inbound
>>>>> connections. Thos have been
>>>>> hampered IME by github not serving git over v6. Supposedly it's coming
>>>>> soon but so much modern
>>>>> software fetches stuff from Github that that's a major blocker.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matt
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/27/22 7:44 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I use the same extension on Chrome.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm surprised that with all the recent hoopla about it, from the
>>>>> major social media platforms,
>>>>> > Twitter still shows serving their http site over IPv4, Facebook and
>>>>> LinkedIn show solid IPv6.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -J
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 9:29 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com
>>>>> <mailto:dave.taht at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     I use a web plugin tool called ipvfoo to track my actual ipv4
>>>>> vis ipv6
>>>>> >     usage. I wish it worked over time. With very few exceptions I am
>>>>> still
>>>>> >     regularly calling ipv4 addresses in most webpages. Has anyone
>>>>> done a
>>>>> >     more organized study of say, the top 1 million, and how many
>>>>> still
>>>>> >     require at least some ipv4 to exist, and those trends over time?
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     --
>>>>> >     This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would
>>>>> work:
>>>>> >
>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz
>>>>> >     <
>>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz
>>>>> >
>>>>> >     Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
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