the ipv4 vs ipv6 growth debate

Mon Dec 5 20:11:51 UTC 2022

Well hard for them to establish an ipv6 connection, none of the domains for
the urls I posted have an aaaa record :-)

-J

On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 1:02 PM Tom Beecher <beecher at beecher.cc> wrote:

> But IPv6Foo , ast least as far as I could tell by quickly looking at the
> code, cannot tell you if an IPv6 connection WOULD have worked, but IPv4 is
> where it ended up.
>
> With Happy Eyeballs, if the IPv4 TCP session finishes up only a couple ms
> faster than the IPv6 ones, the v4 one wins out. That doesn't give you any
> meaningful signal as to WHY it landed on IPv4 instead.
>
> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 12:32 PM Jorge Amodio <jmamodio at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> With IPv6Foo you can click on the icon and it will show you a table
>> listing what URLs are serving some piece of a given page with v6 and v4.
>>
>> LinkedIn for example shows the main feed page served via v6 but there are
>> a couple of pieces with v4 from these sites
>>
>> - dpm.demdex.net
>> - lnkd.demdex.net
>> - p.adsymptotic.com
>> - radar.cedexis.com
>> - sb.scorecardresearch.com
>> - trkn.us
>>
>> Some may be feeding ads content, others tracking, market research, etc.
>>
>> Regards
>> Jorge
>>
>> On Mon, Dec 5, 2022 at 11:09 AM Tom Beecher <beecher at beecher.cc> wrote:
>>
>>> Often lost in the 'debate' about V6 adoption is that for a 100% native
>>> IPv6 experience to work, there are multiple other components that have
>>> nothing to do with the network that ALSO have to work correctly. Any issues
>>> with these are likely going to cause fallback to v4.
>>>
>>> It's very difficult to know how much v4 traffic to a website COULD have
>>> worked just fine on v6, but didn't, and why it didn't.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 3, 2022 at 7:16 PM Matt Corallo <nanog at as397444.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> It would be nice if IPvFoo showed the bytes and connection/request
>>>> count. It's going to be a
>>>> loonnggg time before we can do consumer internet browsing with no v4,
>>>> until then it's about reducing
>>>> cost of CGNAT with reduced packets/connections.
>>>>
>>>> For twitter, the main site is v4, yea, but abs.twimg.net (Edgecast)
>>>> and pbs.twimg.net (Fastly) make
>>>> up the vast majority of the bytes fetched on the site for me and are
>>>> both v6 now. I don't recall
>>>> when I last checked but they were still v4-only not too long ago.
>>>>
>>>> The other end of it is v6-only servers that don't accept inbound
>>>> connections. Thos have been
>>>> hampered IME by github not serving git over v6. Supposedly it's coming
>>>> soon but so much modern
>>>> software fetches stuff from Github that that's a major blocker.
>>>>
>>>> Matt
>>>>
>>>> On 11/27/22 7:44 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > I use the same extension on Chrome.
>>>> >
>>>> > I'm surprised that with all the recent hoopla about it, from the
>>>> major social media platforms,
>>>> > Twitter still shows serving their http site over IPv4, Facebook and
>>>> LinkedIn show solid IPv6.
>>>> >
>>>> > -J
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2022 at 9:29 PM Dave Taht <dave.taht at gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:dave.taht at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >     I use a web plugin tool called ipvfoo to track my actual ipv4 vis
>>>> ipv6
>>>> >     usage. I wish it worked over time. With very few exceptions I am
>>>> still
>>>> >     regularly calling ipv4 addresses in most webpages. Has anyone
>>>> done a
>>>> >     more organized study of say, the top 1 million, and how many still
>>>> >     require at least some ipv4 to exist, and those trends over time?
>>>> >
>>>> >     --
>>>> >     This song goes out to all the folk that thought Stadia would work:
>>>> >
>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz
>>>> >     <
>>>> https://www.linkedin.com/posts/dtaht_the-mushroom-song-activity-6981366665607352320-FXtz
>>>> >
>>>> >     Dave Täht CEO, TekLibre, LLC
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>
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