cogent and henet not peering

Fri Aug 19 15:38:00 UTC 2022

for example he.net upstream = 300 gbps average

downstream = 200 gbps average (monthly, 95th)

then they should pay 6 cent per megabit of 100 gbps.

would be fair enough.. lets see if they are really giving back to the 
community.

why did they stop bgp tunnels? lots of RD networks moved to CH free upstream

USA's loss. He.net's loss. they are nothing at my eyes. but whatever

if they want to bake cake again, they need to convince themselves to pay 
something.

cogent is eyeball heavy (mostly inbound.) while he.net is content heavy.

i assume POP count and anything else can be safely ignored here...

we need to K.I.S.S.

19.08.2022 18:32 tarihinde VOLKAN KIRIK yazdı:
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> the more uploading side pays each month for the excess amount.
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> as content networks are supposed to pay expenses.
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> what do you think?
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> 19.08.2022 18:28 tarihinde Mike Hammett yazdı:
>> The problem them becomes *who* pays? When do the tables turn as to 
>> who pays?
>>
>> The alpha gets paid and the beta does the paying?
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>> The network with more POPs gets paid?
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>> The network with more downstream ASes gets paid?
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>> Is it the same for IPv4 as it is for IPv6?
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>> *From: *"VOLKAN KIRIK" <volkirik at gmail.com>
>> *To: *"Rubens Kuhl" <rubensk at gmail.com>
>> *Cc: *nanog at nanog.org, dschaeffer at cogentco.com, peering at cogentco.com
>> *Sent: *Friday, August 19, 2022 10:22:00 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: cogent and henet not peering
>>
>> this is 50/50 situation. nobody has to peer for free.
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>> but everyone can.
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>> lets just say above 1:1 ratio he.net pays their own ip transit price 
>> to cogent for paid peering excess amount and both sides monitor traffic
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>> we can solve this issue by becoming middlemen worldwide...
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>> both operators are cheap and they could all compete in quality.
>>
>> level3 pays comcast reasonable (cheap) price (under NDA maybe?). why 
>> wouldnt mleber?
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>> but to make it fair, as he.net becomes ww tier-1 operator day-by-day, 
>> lets just limit pricing to excess amount of traffic
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>> thanks for reading
>>
>> would appreciate your support
>>
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>> 19.08.2022 18:09 tarihinde Rubens Kuhl yazdı:
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>>     OTOH, knowing that Cogent loves splitting the global Internet is one
>>     good reason to not contract their services.
>>     I think they sell traffic to their private Intranet. Which is huge,
>>     but doesn't encompass the whole Internet.
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>>
>>     Rubens
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>>     On Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 12:04 PM VOLKAN KIRIK<volkirik at gmail.com>  wrote:
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>>         lets just say cogent gives 400GE in each pop they have in common with he.net for free.
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>>         BUT they will rate-limit he.net links to previous month's 95th percentile upload or download (which is minimum) rate (each month)
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>>         to make ratio 1:1... to make downstream and upstream traffics fair...
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>>         okay?
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>>         fine?
>>
>>         come on people,
>>
>>         segmentation is bad.
>>
>>
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