IoT - The end of the internet
Pascal Thubert (pthubert)
pthubert at cisco.com
Wed Aug 10 04:51:37 UTC 2022
On a more positive note, the IPv6 IoT can be seen as an experiment on how we can scale the internet another order of magnitude or 2 without taking the power or the spectrum consumption to the parallel levels.
For that we turned protocols like ND and MLD from broadcast pull to unicast push in a way that respects the device sleep cycle. We also introduced routing inside the subnet at scale and got rid of the need for common broadcast domains.
With that the Wi-Sun alliance deployed millions of nodes per customer network, with thousands to tens of thousands nodes per subnet. All operating in cheap constrained nodes, unreliable radio links, and scarce bandwidth.
I hope I’ll see the day when we manage to retrofit that in the mainstream stacks; there’s a potential to turn the fringe of the internet a lot greener. Sadly the IPv4 ways (like use of L2 broadcast and mapping IP links and subnets to lower layer constructs) are entrenched in IPv6, and we are facing a lot of resistance.
Stay tuned,
Pascal
> Le 10 août 2022 à 06:29, Mel Beckman <mel at beckman.org> a écrit :
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> ROTFL!
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> Yes, every time I’ve run into Bob at a conference he always introduces himself this way: “I’m Bob Metcalfe, the inventor of Ethernet.”
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> -mel
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>>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 9:20 PM, Fred Baker <fredbaker.ietf at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>>> On Aug 9, 2022, at 8:06 PM, Mel Beckman <mel at beckman.org> wrote:
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>>> Robert Metcalfe, InfoWorld columnist and the inventor of Ethernet, also in 1995:
>>> “I predict the Internet will soon go spectacularly supernova and in 1996 catastrophically collapse.”
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>> In 1998 I invited Mr Metcalfe to address the IETF on the collapse of the Internet, which he renewed his prediction of. He declined.
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