The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

Wed Sep 1 18:49:31 UTC 2021

IPv6 tunnels work great for network geeks, but rather poorly for home users with streaming, gaming etc...It's not necessarily the performance, it's either the geolocation, latency, or the very issue that started this thread - VPN banning.

Remember, the streaming services couldn't care less about geolocation or VPN banning, it's the contractual obligations with the content providers. The content providers care about vpn banning because it gets around geolocation, which interferes with their business models (different release schedules to different regions, etc..)

Been there, done that...Stuck on Fios with no IPv6. Ran into rather "interesting" problems with various streaming services with IPv6 configured.

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-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+mhuff=ox.com at nanog.org> On Behalf Of Michael Thomas
Sent: Wednesday, September 1, 2021 2:26 PM
To: Nimrod Levy <nimrodl at gmail.com>; Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com>
Cc: nanog at nanog.org
Subject: Re: The great Netflix vpn debacle! (geofeeds)

On 9/1/21 10:59 AM, Nimrod Levy wrote:
> All this chatter about IPv6 support on devices is fun and all, but 
> there are providers still not on board.
> They operate in my neighborhood and they know who they are...
>
This is about inside your premise before any NAT's enter the picture. 
What would be nice is if home routers offered up v6 as the default way 
to number and v6 tunnels past ISP's that don't have v6. Home routers 
could make that all rather seamless where users wouldn't need to know 
that was happening. It's really a pity that home routers are a race to 
the bottom where everything else with networking is expected to evolve 
over time.

Mike