Network visibility

Patrick W. Gilmore patrick at ianai.net
Fri Oct 22 19:03:44 UTC 2021


> But I will capitalize Internet in all relevant uses.
> 
> This is an *engineering definition*, it matters that you name the right
> object, and I am one of the people who will, in fact, die on this hill.

You are not alone.


> The associated press can bite me.

While I respect and appreciate the AP (ap?) in general, in this particular instance, I am with you.

-- 
TTFN,
patrick


> On Oct 22, 2021, at 01:21, Jay R. Ashworth <jra at baylink.com> wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Miles Fidelman" <mfidelman at meetinghouse.net>
> 
>> Guys,
>> 
>> You guys were in grade school, some of us were there at the beginning
>> (well, in my case, 2 years after the beginning).  I can assure you that
>> folks made a big deal about what was and wasn't the Internet, and the
>> distinction between "an internet" and "the (capital I) Internet."
>> Opinions varied then, and opinions vary now.
>> 
>> But... by and large, as I understand the general zeitgeist:
>> 
>> - you're either on the Internet, or you're not - the key question is
>> whether you can send & receive IP packets from the public address space
>> (i.e., the classified segments are internets, but not part of THE
>> Internet).  There are also disagreements on where the Internet ends - at
>> the demarc, or at the IP stack in your machine (I argue the latter, but
>> that's debatable)
> 
> Seth Breidbart has the last word on this point, I think:
> 
> The Internet is "the largest equivalence class in the reflexive, transitive, 
> symmetric closure of the relationship 'can be reached by an IP packet from'."
> 
> The associated press has, in the last year or two, disparaged the capitalization
> of the word Internet, proving they do not understand there's a difference.
> 
> If they won't capitalize "my" name, I won't capitalize theirs.
> 
> But I will capitalize Internet in all relevant uses.
> 
> This is an *engineering definition*, it matters that you name the right
> object, and I am one of the people who will, in fact, die on this hill.
> 
> The associated press can bite me.
> 
> Cheers,
> -- jra
> -- 
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