<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"><blockquote type="cite" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><div dir="ltr">But I will capitalize Internet in all relevant uses.<br><br>This is an *engineering definition*, it matters that you name the right<br>object, and I am one of the people who will, in fact, die on this hill.<br></div></blockquote><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;">You are not alone.</div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></div><br style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><blockquote type="cite" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><div dir="ltr">The associated press can bite me.</div></blockquote><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);"><br></span></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">While I respect and appreciate the AP (ap?) in general, in this particular instance, I am with you.</span></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></div><div dir="ltr" style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0); font-size: 13pt;">-- </span></div><div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">TTFN,</span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">patrick</span></div></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div></div><div dir="ltr"><blockquote type="cite">On Oct 22, 2021, at 01:21, Jay R. Ashworth <jra@baylink.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>----- Original Message -----</span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>From: "Miles Fidelman" <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net></span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>Guys,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>You guys were in grade school, some of us were there at the beginning</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(well, in my case, 2 years after the beginning). I can assure you that</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>folks made a big deal about what was and wasn't the Internet, and the</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>distinction between "an internet" and "the (capital I) Internet."</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Opinions varied then, and opinions vary now.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>But... by and large, as I understand the general zeitgeist:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>- you're either on the Internet, or you're not - the key question is</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>whether you can send & receive IP packets from the public address space</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>(i.e., the classified segments are internets, but not part of THE</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Internet). There are also disagreements on where the Internet ends - at</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>the demarc, or at the IP stack in your machine (I argue the latter, but</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>that's debatable)</span><br></blockquote><span></span><br><span>Seth Breidbart has the last word on this point, I think:</span><br><span></span><br><span>The Internet is "the largest equivalence class in the reflexive, transitive, </span><br><span>symmetric closure of the relationship 'can be reached by an IP packet from'."</span><br><span></span><br><span>The associated press has, in the last year or two, disparaged the capitalization</span><br><span>of the word Internet, proving they do not understand there's a difference.</span><br><span></span><br><span>If they won't capitalize "my" name, I won't capitalize theirs.</span><br><span></span><br><span>But I will capitalize Internet in all relevant uses.</span><br><span></span><br><span>This is an *engineering definition*, it matters that you name the right</span><br><span>object, and I am one of the people who will, in fact, die on this hill.</span><br><span></span><br><span>The associated press can bite me.</span><br><span></span><br><span>Cheers,</span><br><span>-- jra</span><br><span>-- </span><br><span>Jay R. Ashworth Baylink jra@baylink.com</span><br><span>Designer The Things I Think RFC 2100</span><br><span>Ashworth & Associates http://www.bcp38.info 2000 Land Rover DII</span><br><span>St Petersburg FL USA BCP38: Ask For It By Name! +1 727 647 1274</span><br></div></blockquote></div></body></html>