DoD IP Space

Sun Apr 25 04:44:46 UTC 2021

Ryan,

My motives are not political. It doesn’t matter which party is behind this (and it looks like both would have to be, based on the timeline).

I’m treating this sudden advertisement of IP space as I would any other hostile actor, which NANOGers filter all the time. If the DOD comes clean and provides the required registered contact information, I might reconsider. But I’ve already called the published abuse contact number, and they say they don’t deal with “the public”. Until the DoD makes clear their intentions, blocking this IP space is the only sensible decision.

 -mel 

> On Apr 24, 2021, at 9:11 PM, Ryan Hamel <administrator at rkhtech.org> wrote:
> 
> Mel,
> 
> I hope you're not implementing this in an ISP network, it's not net neutral if a carrier is making a (political) route/filtering decision. (Points to The Great Firewall of China)
> 
> Ryan
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG <nanog-bounces+ryan=rkhtech.org at nanog.org> On Behalf Of Mel Beckman
> Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 4:17 PM
> To: William Herrin <bill at herrin.us>
> Cc: nanog at nanog.org
> Subject: Re: DoD IP Space
> 
> Bill,
> 
> It’s the INTERNET that is civilian, not the IP space. As long as that IP space was isolated to the .mil network, it was private space, as far as the Internet was concerned. Now DoD has moved it into the civilian Internet, and I treat them as potentially malicious as I do any other organization that lies, cheats, and steals the public trust.
> 
> -mel
> 
>> On Apr 24, 2021, at 3:45 PM, William Herrin <bill at herrin.us> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 8:26 AM Mel Beckman <mel at beckman.org> wrote:
>>> This doesn’t sound good, no matter how you slice it. The lack of 
>>> transparency with a civilian resource is troubling at a minimum.
>> 
>> You do understand that the addresses in question are not and have 
>> never been "civilian." They came into DoD's possession when this was 
>> all still a military project funded by what's now DARPA.
>> 
>> Personally, I think we may have an all time record for the largest 
>> honeypot ever constructed. I'd love to be a fly on that wall.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Bill Herrin
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> William Herrin
>> bill at herrin.us
>> https://bill.herrin.us/
> 
> 