DoD IP Space

Ryan Hamel administrator at
Sun Apr 25 04:11:43 UTC 2021


I hope you're not implementing this in an ISP network, it's not net neutral if a carrier is making a (political) route/filtering decision. (Points to The Great Firewall of China)


-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG < at> On Behalf Of Mel Beckman
Sent: Saturday, April 24, 2021 4:17 PM
To: William Herrin <bill at>
Cc: nanog at
Subject: Re: DoD IP Space


It’s the INTERNET that is civilian, not the IP space. As long as that IP space was isolated to the .mil network, it was private space, as far as the Internet was concerned. Now DoD has moved it into the civilian Internet, and I treat them as potentially malicious as I do any other organization that lies, cheats, and steals the public trust.


> On Apr 24, 2021, at 3:45 PM, William Herrin <bill at> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 8:26 AM Mel Beckman <mel at> wrote:
>> This doesn’t sound good, no matter how you slice it. The lack of 
>> transparency with a civilian resource is troubling at a minimum.
> You do understand that the addresses in question are not and have 
> never been "civilian." They came into DoD's possession when this was 
> all still a military project funded by what's now DARPA.
> Personally, I think we may have an all time record for the largest 
> honeypot ever constructed. I'd love to be a fly on that wall.
> Regards,
> Bill Herrin
> --
> William Herrin
> bill at

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