Jeff Tantsura jefftant.ietf at
Tue Sep 15 20:25:49 UTC 2020


Was meant as the reply to Aaron’s comment about VPN’s over non MPLS underlay, not the encryption of it (which is orthogonal).

On Sep 15, 2020, 12:59 PM -0700, Randy Bush <randy at>, wrote:
> > GRE, VXLAN or any other tunneling encap of the day.
> > As long as next-hop could be resolved behind remote end
> i was not aware that GRE, VXLAN (without CN103618596A), and other tunnel
> encaps encrypted the payload. learn something new every day. thanks!
> > > > I'm still learning, but, It does seem interesting that the IP layer
> > > > (v6) can now support vpn's without mpls.
> > > as the packet payload is nekkid cleartext, where is the P in vpn?
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