Contact at Ubiquiti Networks?

Mel Beckman mel at beckman.org
Tue May 26 14:44:40 UTC 2020


JG, 

I empathize with your BGP problems. I’ve had problems with BGP on anything other than Cisco for my entire networking life. It’s just the nature of the beast, although that’s not an excuse for ubiquity not fixing it.

But what is an excuse is market demand. How many people do you think speak BGP on ubiquiti routers? I know ubiquiti, like every company, likes to claim that they do everything. But no company can do everything, so you have to find out where their strengths are and avoid their weaknesses.

Personally, I always put a pair of stacked Cisco layer3 switches at the edge of every BGP network. This gives me reliable, redundant BGP peering that operates at wire speed and can still carry full backbone tables. Use Cisco hardware let me do this for less money then I would pay for a buggy ubiquiti router.

-mel via cell

> On May 26, 2020, at 7:08 AM, Joe Greco <jgreco at ns.sol.net> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, May 26, 2020 at 01:43:02PM +0000, Mel Beckman wrote:
>> I deploy Ubiquiti equipment quite a bit, both in WLANs and WISP
>> distribution networks. It???s excellent quality at a dirt cheap
>> price. As with all software-based products, there will be bugs.
>> Your or my pet bug may never get fixed, based on market demand.
>> That???s simply capitalism, not low quality. None of us can
>> afford to pay for perfection, because it would never ship.
> 
> Bugs exist in hardware products too.  The difference is that with the
> software products, you'd hope for them to be fixed, whereas the ones
> in hardware generally turn into RMA.
> 
> My current pet peeves with Ubiquiti are all on the router side of
> things.  OSPFv3 (IPv6) doesn't work correctly past EdgeOS v1.10.9,
> and their BGP blows chunks - I've got an Infinity connected to a
> pair of route reflectors handling a single IX (two route servers)
> and it loses its mind, with the bgpd process actually going away.
> 
> Whether that's Ubiquiti's fault or should be blamed on ZebOS is a
> debatable question.  If you've got a vendor supplying your routing
> software, it seems like fixing advertised features that are clearly
> broken would be a matter of applying pressure on the upstream vendor
> whose code used to work and then was broken, not a matter of "market
> demand."
> 
> What's not debatable is that this has been the status quo for around
> nine months.  That's nine months without proper IPv6 support.  And
> this is their high end 10G full BGP tables router.  Buyer beware.
> 
> The wifi side of things?  Yes, the Ubiquiti stuff is very inexpensive
> and it provides better value-per-dollar than just about anything else
> out there.
> 
> ... JG
> -- 
> Joe Greco - sol.net Network Services - Milwaukee, WI - http://www.sol.net
> "The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way
> through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that
> democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.'"-Asimov


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