QUIC traffic throttled on AT&T residential

Thu Feb 20 17:01:53 UTC 2020

On Thu, Feb 20, 2020 at 10:41 AM Dave Bell <me at geordish.org> wrote:

>
> Not indiscriminate.
>>
>
> Indiscriminate - done at random or without careful judgement.
>
> Considering that Daniel is complaining that QUIC is broken, it certainly
> seems like some network operators are subjecting all UDP traffic on their
> network to the same policers. This feels pretty indiscriminate to me.
>
> I'm all for policing the known baddies, such as CHARGEN and NTP, but to
> discard UDP for fun is like taking a sledgehammer where a scalpel will do.
>
>

For fun?

We are done here

Access networks need controls to maintain uptime against the non-stop
>> barrage of ddos attacks. I am sure you have seen the headlines and mails on
>> this list, ddos is hard to deal with. Access network will use whatever
>> tools are required to keep the pagers quiet and customers happy.
>>
>
> I operate an access network that does not blanket police UDP. Google give
> me a dashboard that tell me 45% of requests  were served happily by QUIC,
> and I have no customers complaining about things not working, and our
> pagers are silent.
>
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