RIPE our of IPv4

Fri Nov 29 23:19:49 UTC 2019

"So if they do care about IPv6 connectivity, they haven’t communicated that to us." 

Nor will they, but that doesn't mean IPv6 isn't important. 

Frankly, I'm surprised anti-IPv6 people still have employment. 

----- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Midwest-IX 
http://www.midwest-ix.com 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Brian Knight" <ml at knight-networks.com> 
To: "Mark Andrews" <marka at isc.org> 
Cc: "nanog" <nanog at nanog.org> 
Sent: Friday, November 29, 2019 10:29:17 AM 
Subject: Re: RIPE our of IPv4 

> On Nov 27, 2019, at 4:04 PM, Mark Andrews <marka at isc.org> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 28 Nov 2019, at 06:08, Brian Knight <ml at knight-networks.com> wrote: 
>> 
>>> On 2019-11-26 17:11, Ca By wrote: 
>>> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 12:15 AM Sabri Berisha <sabri at cluecentral.net> 
>>> wrote: 
>>>> ----- On Nov 26, 2019, at 1:36 AM, Doug Barton dougb at dougbarton.us wrote: 
>> 
>> [snip] 
>>>> there is no ROI at this point. In this kind of environment there needs to 
>>>> be a strong case to invest the capex to support IPv6. 
>>>> IPv6 must be supported on the CxO level in order to be deployed. 
>>>> Thanks, 
>>>> Sabri, (Badum tsss) MBA 
>>> I see....well let me translate it you MBA-eese for you: 
>>> FANG deployed ipv6 nearly 10 years ago. Since deploying ipv6, the cohort 
>>> experienced 300% CAGR. Also, everything is mobile, and all mobile providers 
>>> in the usa offer ipv6 by default in most cases. Latency! Scale! As your 
>>> company launches its digital transformation iot 2020 virtualization 
>>> container initiatives, ipv6 will be an integral part of staying relevant on 
>>> the blockchain. Also, FANG did it nearly 10 years ago. Big content and 
>>> big eyeballs are on ipv6, ipv4 is a winnowing longtail of irrelevance and 
>>> iot botnets. 
>> 
>> None of which matters a damn to almost all of my business eyeball customers. They can still get from our network to 100% of all Internet content & services via IPv4 in 2019. 
> 
> No you can’t. You can’t reach the machine I’m typing on via IPv4 and it is ON THE INTERNET. It is directly reachable via IPv6. Selling Internet connectivity without IPv6 should be considered fraud these days. Don’t 
> you believe in “Truth in Advertising”? 

I had meant to write “They can still get from our network to 100% of all Internet content and services that matter to them [our customers] via IPv4...” 

0% of my IPv4-only customers have opened tickets saying they cannot reach some service that is only IPv6 accessible. So if they do care about IPv6 connectivity, they haven’t communicated that to us. 

> Mark Andrews, ISC 
> 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia 
> PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: marka at isc.org 
> 

Thanks, 

-Brian 

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