RIPE our of IPv4

Mon Dec 2 00:06:14 UTC 2019

You’re saying that there are two networks that are of sufficient complexity/size/whatever to require PA addressing, yet lack the resources for $150/year in registration fees?

I suppose it’s not impossible, but I’m wondering how they afford the other expenses associated with maintaining such a network.

Owen

> On Nov 30, 2019, at 09:00 , Matthew Kaufman <matthew at matthew.at> wrote:
> 
> I administer two networks that use legacy IPv4 blocks (one also uses an allocation from the 44 net)
> 
> Both could have IPv6 if it was free, but neither organization has the funds to waste on a paid IPv6 allocation.
> 
> We should have given every legacy block matching free IPv6 space, because early adopters are still sometimes early adopters. 
> 
> But you’re right, what could have been supported on a volunteer basis is now a profit center. Especially for IPv6, which is once-and-done if sized properly.
> 
> Matthew Kaufman
> 
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:29 PM <bzs at theworld.com <mailto:bzs at theworld.com>> wrote:
> 
> If the commitment really was to spread IPv6 far and wide IPv6 blocks
> would be handed out for free, one per qualified customer (e.g., if you
> have an IPv4 allocation you get one IPv6 block free), or perhaps some
> trivial administrative fee like $10 per year.
> 
> But the RIRs can't live on that.
> 
> We have put them under the management of a group of five organizations
> which are very dependent on the income from block allocations and no
> doubt were hoping IPv6 allocations would be a boon since there will be
> very little if any income growth from future IPv4 block allocations.
> 
> Worse, once acquired an IPv6 block has so many billions of addresses
> very few if any would ever need another allocation so it would hardly
> act as a loss leader.
> 
> I realize many still would not deploy IPv6 for various reasons such as
> their equipment doesn't support it or they don't have the in-house
> expertise to support it, etc tho I can't think of much other etc, a
> few points of resistance do come up.
> 
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