RIPE our of IPv4

Mon Dec 2 01:23:03 UTC 2019

I get $500, not $150, when I read the price list.

On Sun, Dec 1, 2019 at 4:06 PM Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:

> You’re saying that there are two networks that are of sufficient
> complexity/size/whatever to require PA addressing, yet lack the resources
> for $150/year in registration fees?
>
> I suppose it’s not impossible, but I’m wondering how they afford the other
> expenses associated with maintaining such a network.
>
> Owen
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2019, at 09:00 , Matthew Kaufman <matthew at matthew.at> wrote:
>
> I administer two networks that use legacy IPv4 blocks (one also uses an
> allocation from the 44 net)
>
> Both could have IPv6 if it was free, but neither organization has the
> funds to waste on a paid IPv6 allocation.
>
> We should have given every legacy block matching free IPv6 space, because
> early adopters are still sometimes early adopters.
>
> But you’re right, what could have been supported on a volunteer basis is
> now a profit center. Especially for IPv6, which is once-and-done if sized
> properly.
>
> Matthew Kaufman
>
> On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 2:29 PM <bzs at theworld.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> If the commitment really was to spread IPv6 far and wide IPv6 blocks
>> would be handed out for free, one per qualified customer (e.g., if you
>> have an IPv4 allocation you get one IPv6 block free), or perhaps some
>> trivial administrative fee like $10 per year.
>>
>> But the RIRs can't live on that.
>>
>> We have put them under the management of a group of five organizations
>> which are very dependent on the income from block allocations and no
>> doubt were hoping IPv6 allocations would be a boon since there will be
>> very little if any income growth from future IPv4 block allocations.
>>
>> Worse, once acquired an IPv6 block has so many billions of addresses
>> very few if any would ever need another allocation so it would hardly
>> act as a loss leader.
>>
>> I realize many still would not deploy IPv6 for various reasons such as
>> their equipment doesn't support it or they don't have the in-house
>> expertise to support it, etc tho I can't think of much other etc, a
>> few points of resistance do come up.
>>
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