OpenDNS CGNAT Issues

Darin Steffl darin.steffl at mnwifi.com
Tue Sep 11 14:22:52 UTC 2018


Guys, I'm not asking about IPv6. I'm simply asking for a contact at OpenDNS.

And we are purchasing enough IPv4 space to provide an IP to every customer
but it's not ready yet.

Thank you

On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 8:39 AM, Ca By <cb.list6 at gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 6:31 AM Matt Hoppes <[email protected]
> rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>
>> So don't CGNat?  Buy IPv4 addresses at auction?
>>
>
> As long as you don’t deploy ipv6, you should be good.
>
> Seriously. Not sure why this is so hard. IPv4 does not scale.  Your
> customers, like my customers, probably mostly go to Youtube, google, fb,
> netflix, .... all which have ipv6. Giving your existing customers ipv6
> moves this traffic off your cgn. And gives them a path to dns services.
>
> But you do you. if you ask NANOG, how to solve this problem, and missed
> the 3 NANOG meeting presos at every meeting about how ipv6 is good .... not
> sure what you expect here. Definately not a shoulder to cry on, but i wm
> sure some v4 brokers and cgn box pushers see your customers blood in the
> water.
>
> CB
>
>>
>> On 9/11/18 9:28 AM, Ca By wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Sep 11, 2018 at 6:04 AM Matt Hoppes
>> > <mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net
>> > <mailto:mattlists at rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     That isn’t a solution. He still will need to dual stack and CGNat
>> that.
>> >
>> >
>> > But the flows that can support ipv6, will go ipv6 and not be subject to
>> > these abuse triggers.
>> >
>> > Look, this list has monthly reports from some small network operator
>> > hurting their customers with CGN NAT. Meanwhile, the big guys like
>> > Comcast / Charter / ATT / Cox have moved onto ipv6.
>> >
>> > Where does that leave the little guy with CGN?
>> >
>> > Right here. Screaming into the avoid begging for help. Some special
>> > exception.
>> >
>> > And, me, saying you had 10+ years of not deploying ipv6.  Here’s to the
>> > next 10 years of you email this list about your own failure to keep up
>> > with the times.
>> >
>> > We will have this discussion again and again.  Not sure your customers
>> > will stick around, all they know is your CGN space got black listed
>> from
>> > yet another service
>> >
>> > #realtalk
>> >
>> >
>> >     On Sep 11, 2018, at 08:54, Ca By <cb.list6 at gmail.com
>> >     <mailto:cb.list6 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>     On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 9:12 PM Darin Steffl
>> >>     <darin.steffl at mnwifi.com <mailto:darin.steffl at mnwifi.com>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>         Hello,
>> >>
>> >>         I have a ticket open with OpenDNS about filtering happening on
>> >>         some of our CGNAT IP space where a customer has "claimed" the
>> >>         IP as theirs so other customers using that same IP and OpenDNS
>> >>         are being filtered and not able to access sites that fall
>> >>         under their chosen filter.
>> >>
>> >>         I have a ticket open from 6 days ago but it's not going
>> >>         anywhere fast.
>> >>
>> >>         Can someone from OpenDNS contact me or point me to a contact
>> >>         there to help get this resolved? I believe we need to claim
>> >>         our CGNAT IP space so residential users can't claim IP's of
>> >>         their own.
>> >>
>> >>         Thank you!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>     You should provide your users ipv6, opendns supports ipv6 and
>> >>     likely will not have this issue you see
>> >>
>> >>     https://www.opendns.com/about/innovations/ipv6/
>> >>
>> >>     I am sure it may cost you time / money / effort. But this old
>> >>     thing we call ipv4 is in a death spiral, and it will just get
>> >>     worse and worse for you without ipv6.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>         --
>> >>         Darin Steffl
>> >>         Minnesota WiFi
>> >>         www.mnwifi.com <http://www.mnwifi.com/>
>> >>         507-634-WiFi
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>> >>
>>
>


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