IPv6 faster/better proof? was Re: Need /24 (arin) asap

Mike Hammett nanog at ics-il.net
Sat Jun 23 21:23:52 UTC 2018

A couple of the big draws to Mikrotik (aside from the performance and features you get for the price) are Winbox, Torch, and real-time stats. Great features that don't really have an equal elsewhere. 

Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 


----- Original Message -----

From: "Jared Mauch" <jared at puck.nether.net> 
To: "Mark Tinka" <mark.tinka at seacom.mu> 
Cc: nanog at nanog.org 
Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2018 6:17:15 AM 
Subject: Re: IPv6 faster/better proof? was Re: Need /24 (arin) asap 

> On Jun 22, 2018, at 9:31 AM, Mark Tinka <mark.tinka at seacom.mu> wrote: 
> On 22/Jun/18 15:05, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via NANOG wrote: 
>> I’m not really sure “you get what you pay for” … compare with OpenWRT … you have frequent updates, even in days when some important security flaw is discovered, as it happened a few months ago with WiFi. You can even develop yourself what you want or pay folks to do it for you. 
> No one disputes that, but there is a reason why operators are paying for 
> MikroTik instead of taking a white box and flashing it with free code 
> from any number of sources. 
> They could either spend time developing free code on white boxes to a 
> level where it does everything they want, or they could decide for what 
> MikroTik offers for an integrated solution (hardware + software), the 
> time and effort are outweighed by the cost, as a function of traditional 
> alternatives such as Cisco, Juniper, Nokia, Brocade, e.t.c. 
> Joe Average has neither the experience nor the inclination to flash 
> whatever box he has with OpenWRT. You and I do (well, I've grown lazy, 
> so...). Copy & paste for FTTH service providers dealing with thousands 
> or millions of customers who want to pay nothing for 1Gbps to their 
> house, and you quickly see why this is not an easy problem to solve. 

I’ve found most folks doing Tik need the GUI, etc to interact with the devices. I can’t say I blame them in some ways either. Have you tried to upgrade an IOS-XR device before? One-click updates in Tik are much easier. Even UBNT it’s fairly straightforward. Personally I use Tik for layer-2 stuff, be it media converters or switches where there’s not some other alternative that makes more sense. I’m comfortable with a CLI, but most people I’ve tried to say “hey, use this it’s better” say “I can’t http/https to it, the learning curve is too steep”. 

- Jared 

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