Extending network over a dry pair

Thu Dec 13 22:22:29 UTC 2018

Repeaters are standard for T1s.

I strongly suggest looking at wireless. There is almost guaranteed to be a 
spot you can put a repeater up to bridge you to your gateway.

-Dan

On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Nick Bogle wrote:

> The driving distance is 4 miles, we are leasing it from CenturyLink whose
> headend maybe adds a mile or less, it's on the route and about half way
> through. I made it 6 miles to be safe. We currently can pull a full 1.5Mbps
> off of that T1 we run there so perhaps CenturyLink is repeating at their CO
> and/or along the route?
>
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 6:32 PM Dan Hollis <goemon at sasami.anime.net> wrote:
>
>> I doubt he will get >1.5mbps with those over a 6 mile long connection.
>>
>> I did a quick check and flowpoint 2200s seem to max out at 192kbps at 3
>> miles.
>>
>> -Dan
>>
>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Tim Pozar wrote:
>>
>>> For dry pairs, I have used Flowpoint SDSL modems (see attached).  I
>>> picked these up for a sawbuck.
>>>
>>> Tim
>>>
>>> On 12/12/18 5:00 PM, Dan Hollis wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 12 Dec 2018, Nick Bogle wrote:
>>>>> A quick question for you guys;
>>>>>
>>>>> If you had a single dry pair (pair of copper wires originally for
>> phones)
>>>>> to a remote site that was around 6 miles away, what would you use? We
>>>>> currently are just extending a T1 line to this site, but 1.5Mbps isn't
>>>>> cutting it anymore. Unfortunately it's a research site on a federally
>>>>> protected wildlife preserve so we can't run any new infrastructure
>> (fiber
>>>>> etc) and it isn't in a geographical place where point to point
>>>>> wireless is
>>>>> practical. We were thinking there is some sort of network extender that
>>>>> uses some form of DSL for higher bandwidth capacity.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestions?
>>>>
>>>> If this is telco provided dry pair then the distance is probably longer
>>>> than 6 miles as the endpoints are probably tied together through a telco
>>>> CO.
>>>>
>>>> I have not heard of any equipment which will work over a 6 mile pair any
>>>> faster than you're getting with T1.
>>>>
>>>> You might consider setting up wireless repeaters to bridge where there
>>>> is no direct LOS. Look at what the hamwan guys have done.
>>>> http://hamwan.org/
>>>>
>>>> -Dan
>>>
>>
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