Should ISP block child pornography?

Fri Dec 7 18:48:02 UTC 2018

Hi All,

we are fighting with censorship in our country. So I have something to say.

First, censorship is not just "switch off this website and that
webpage". No magic button exist. It is more complex, if you think as for
while system.

Initially, networks was build without systems (hardware and software)
can block something.

Yes, you may nullroute some IP with some site, but as the collateral
damage you will block part of Cloudflare or Amazon, for example. So you
have to buy and install additional equipment and software to do it a bit
less painful. That's not so cheap, that should be planned, brought,
installed, checked and personal should be learned. After that, your
system will be capable to block some website for ~90% of your customers
will not proactively avoid blocking. And for *NONE* who will, as CP
addicts, terrorists, blackmarkets, gambling, porn and others do.

Yep. Now you network is capable to censor something. You just maid the
first step to the hell. What's next? Some people send you some websites
to ban. This list with CP, Spamhaus DROP, some court orders, some
semi-legal copyright protectors orders, some "we just want to block it"
requests... And some list positions from time to time became outdated,
so you need to clean it from time to time. Do not even expect people
sent you the block request will send you unblock request, of course.
Then, we have >6000 ISPs in our country - it is not possible to interact
with all of them directly.

So, you end up under a lot of papers, random interactions with random
people and outdated and desyncronized blocking list. It will not work.

Next, government realizes there should be one centralized blocking list
and introduces it.

Ok. Now we have censored Internet. THE SWITCH IS ON.

In a very short time the number of organizations have permission to
insert something in the list dramatically increases. Corruption rises,
it becomes possible, and then becomes cheap to put your competitor's
website into the list for some time. And of course, primary target of
any censorship is the elections...

What about CP and porn addicts, gamblers, killers, terrorists? Surprise,
they are even more fine than at the beginning! Why? Because they learned
VPN, TOR and have to use it! Investigators end up with TOR and VPN exit
IP addresses from another countries instead of their home IPs.

Hey. It is a very very bad and very very danger game. Avoid it.
Goal of that game is to SWITCH ON that system BY ANY REASON. CP, war,
gambling - any reason that will work. After the system will be switched
on - in several months you will forget the initial reason. And will
awake in another world.

07.12.18 08:06, Lotia, Pratik M пише:
> Hello all, was curious to know the community’s opinion on whether an ISP
> should block domains hosting CPE (child pornography exploitation)
> content? Interpol has a ‘worst-of’ list which contains such domains and
> it wants ISPs to block it.
> 
> On one side we want the ISP to not do any kind of censorship or
> inspection of customer traffic (customers are paying for pipes – not for
> filtered pipes), on the other side morals/ethics come into play. Keep in
> mind that if an ISP is blocking it would mean that it is also logging
> the information (source IP) and law agencies might be wanting access to it.
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> Wondering if any operator is actively doing it or has ever considered
> doing it?
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> Thanks.
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> With Gratitude,
> 
> * *
> 
> *Pratik Lotia*      
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