Google DNS intermittent ServFail for Disney subdomain

Blake Dunlap ikiris at
Wed Oct 25 18:35:20 CST 2017

And it is believed that sold end user devices wouldn't just be
required to implement this blacklist themselves? This is reminding me
of the xkcd coming with the encryption and the wrench.

On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:53 AM, Jean-Francois Mezei
<jfmezei_nanog at> wrote:
> On 2017-10-25 13:05, Matthew Pounsett wrote:
>> I'm also led to wonder how much worse it would be if all those CPE were
>> open recursives instead of open forwarders.  I'd like to see CPE
>> manufacturers' decision making and processes improved BEFORE we start
>> encouraging them to go around ISPs' DNS servers or the large public
>> recursive clouds.
> A while back, the Qu├ębec government, wanting to protect its gambling
> monopoly, decided to force ISPs to block a list of gambling sites (list
> drawn up by the gambling monopoly to block outside competitors).
> Recently, Bell Canada went to government suggesting the government setup
> a internet web site block list to prevent canadians from accessing
> pirating web sites.
> And of course, in the USA, the upcoming decision to drop Title II for
> ISPs may result in large ISPs quickly starting to play tricks on DNS
> (redirecting traffic to their own properties etc).
> While all this is in its infancy and may not happen, this could have
> serious impact on the architecture of DNS with large swaths of customers
> bypassing their ISP's DNS services.
> But it is more likely that everyone would be going to instead of
> running their own recursive server. But if the "free" DNS servers also
> start to play games or charge money, then CPE equipment may start
> including a full bind recursive server and bypass everything.
> This is why it is important for network folks to educate politicians to
> not play with the internet.

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