Government agency renting or selling IP space

Fri Mar 17 03:17:54 UTC 2017

Jimmy,

Their ARIN record says Direct Assignment rather than Direct Allocation, so it does appear ARIN considers them an end user. Also, I see no prior SWIPs, so possibly they never SWIPed their previous customers. I'll have to give ARIN a call.

 -mel 

> On Mar 16, 2017, at 6:08 PM, Jimmy Hess <mysidia at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 7:39 PM, Mel Beckman <mel at beckman.org> wrote:
>> Bill,
>> Is there a technically a restriction preventing swiping of this IP space when it's being rented? How is that different from an ISP swiping  its customers that are renting bandwidth?
> 
> This is a difference between an "Allocated" block of addresses to an
> ISP and an "Assigned" network prefix belonging to a end-user.
> 
> End-User Orgs typically lack technical ability to create re-assignment
> records showing a different
> organization,  b/c  they have IPs assigned for a specific network....
> 
> ISPs / Co-location providers who are ARIN members with Allocated addresses
> can Re-Allocate to a downstream ISP or Assign a network prefix from allocated
> space to a downstream End-user organization.
> 
> An End user can likely show they're an ISP, join ARIN as an ISP member,   &
> request  Direct Assignments from ARIN be combined into new Allocations;
> 
> If the character of the network changes,  I would expect the new ISP
> may have to show information to ARIN establishing that the change to
> an ISP Allocation  will be consistent with the NRPM requirements.....
> 
> (Seeing as Assignments to End-Users and Allocations to ISPs have
> different  policies  for creation described in the NRPM,  and there's
> no mention in the Policy they can be directly converted  without a
> Transfer or Renumber/Consolidate  or Return & renumber....)
> 
> 
>> -mel via cell
> --
> -JH