IPv4 Hijacking For Idiots

Christopher Morrow morrowc.lists at gmail.com
Mon Jun 5 16:03:18 CST 2017


On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 7:05 AM, Mel Beckman <mel at beckman.org> wrote:

> One way is for the hijacker to simply peer with himself. The hijacker has
> an existing peering arrangement with, say, AT&T. He then tells AT&T that he
> will be transit for ASxxxx advertising XYZ routes, by dint of a cheerfully
> forged LOA. Once filters have been updated, the hijacker advertises the
> space to himself, and then from thence to AT&T.
>

that doesn't seem to be what's happening in ron's example though...

it looks, to me, like the example ron has is more a case of:
  1) register contacts for lost asn (AS34991)
  2) setup equipment/etc at an IX (bulgaria-ix it seems, at least) with
another shill/lost-child asn (AS206776)
  3) start doing the bgps with the IX fabric's route-server
  4) profit (or something)

so here the IXP operator (balkans ix actually?)
  http://lg.bix.bg/?query=summary&addr=&router=rs1.bix.bg+%28IPv4%29
  (search for 206776 ->
http://lg.bix.bg/?query=bgp&addr=neighbors+193.169.198.191&router=rs1.bix.bg+(IPv4)
)

should probably look more than just side-eyes at their customer...


>
> It's no great trick getting peering set up. Just fill out a ten-question
> BGP app and pay a one-time fee of maybe $100, and you're done.
>

err, you'll have to better explain this I think.

Are you saying: "get an ASN from RIR that costs 100USD" (might, probably
does)

this doesn't get you a peering/transit contract though...

-chris


>
>  -mel beckman
>
> > On Jun 5, 2017, at 3:56 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> > The more I know, the less I understand.
> >
> > Maybe some of you kind folks can help.
> >
> > Please explain for me the following scenario, and how this all actually
> > works in practice.
> >
> > Let's say that you're a malevolent Bad Actor and all you want to do is
> > to get hold of some ASN that nobody is watching too closely, and then
> > use that to announce some routes to some IPv4 space that nobody is
> > watching too closely, so that you can then parcel out that IP space
> > to your snowshoe spammer pals... at least until somebody gets wise.
> >
> > OK, so you pull down a copy of, say, the RIPE WHOIS database, and you
> > programatically walk your way through it, looking for contact email
> > addresses on ASN records where the domain of the contact email address
> > has become unregistered.  Say for example the one for AS34991.  So
> > then you re-register that contact domain, fresh, and then you start
> > telling all of your friends and enemies that you -are- AS34991.
> >
> > That part seems simple enough, and indeed, I've seen -this- part of the
> > movie several times before.  However once you have stepped into the
> > identity of the former owners of the ASN, if you then want to actually
> > proceed to -announce- some routes, and actually ave those routes make
> > it out onto the Internet generally, then you still have to -peer- with
> > somebody, right?
> >
> > So, I guess then, if you're clever, you look and see who the ASN you've
> > just successfully hijacked has historically peered with, and then you
> > somehow arrange to send route announcements to those guys, right?
> > (I'm talking about AS206776 and    AS57344 here, BTW.)
> >
> > But see, this is where I get lost.  I mean how do you push your route
> > announcements to these guys?  (I don't actually know that much about
> > how BGP actually works in practice, so please bear with me.)  How do
> > you know what IP address to send your announcements to?  And if you are
> > going to push your route announcements out to, say, the specific routers
> > that are run by AS206776 and AS57344, i.e. the ones that will send your
> > desired route announcements out to the rest of the Internet... well..
> > how do you find out the IP addresses of those routers on those other
> > networks?  Do you call up the NOCs at those other networks and do a bit
> > of social engineering on them to find out the IP addresses you need to
> > send to?  And can you just send BGP messages to the routers on those
> > other networks without -any- authentication or anything and have those
> > routers just blindly accept them -and- relay them on to the whole rest
> > of the Internet??
> >
> > I've read article after article after article bemoanging the fact that
> > "BGP isn't secure", but now I'm starting to wonder just how massively
> > and unbelieveably unsecure it actually is.  I mean would these routers
> > being run by AS206776 and AS57344 just blindly accept -any- route
> > announcements sent to them from literally -any- IP address?  (That seems
> > positively looney tunes to me!  I mean things can't really be THAT
> > colossally and unbelievably stupid, can they?)
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any enlightenment.
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > rfg
> >
> >
> > P.S.  It would appear to be the case that since some time in April of
> this
> > year the "Bulgarian" network, AS34991, had evinced a rather sudden and
> > pronounced affinity for various portion of the IPv4 address space
> nominally
> > associated with the nation of Columbia, including at least five /24
> blocks
> > within 168.176.0.0/16 which, from where I am sitting, would appear to
> belong
> > to the National University of Columbia.
> >
> > Oh well.  They apparently haven't been missing those five gaping holes in
> > their /16 since the time the more specifics started showing up in April.
> >
> > And anyway, so far it looks like the new owners of AS34991 haven't
> actually
> > sub-leased any of those /24s to any spammers yet.  Only the
> 190.90.88.0/24
> > block seems to be filled, wall-to-all, with snowshoe spammers so far.
> >
> >
>


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