phone fun, was GeoIP database issues and the real world consequences

Mark Andrews marka at
Fri Apr 15 19:09:35 UTC 2016

In message <571105A6.3040607 at>, Nikolay Shopik writes:
> On 15/04/16 17:51, John R. Levine wrote:
> > Putting mobiles into a handful of non-geographic codes as they do in
> > Europe wouldn't work because the US is a very large country, long
> > distance costs and charges were important, and they needed to be able
> > to charge more for a mobile call across the country than across the
> > street. 
> I would like to add that Russian mobiles in non-geographic codes and
> have free incoming calls (it wasn't until 2006) and also very large
> territory. But that created internal roaming prices within country.
> So if you are making call not from your home region you'll pay more also
> you may pay for incoming call too (unless you pay for such option to
> make your abroad incoming calls free)

Australia is about the area as the US and has always had caller
pays and seperate area codes for mobiles.  Call costs are independent
of the mobiles location unless you are OS where the callee picks
up the OS component of the voice call (incoming SMS's are usually
free even if you are OS, they slug you with replies however).

I've also got a US SIM and had my credit run to zero dollars with
the phone turned off due to the sillyness of the US system.  No
calls or SMS being delivered but I'm still getting charged.

Mark Andrews, ISC
1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: marka at

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