Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality

Scott Helms khelms at zcorum.com
Tue Mar 3 19:54:48 UTC 2015


/em shrug

I can't help it if you don't like real world data.
On Mar 3, 2015 2:25 PM, "Barry Shein" <bzs at world.std.com> wrote:

>
> Ok, then I no longer have any confidence that I understand what you
> were asserting.
>
> From: Scott Helms <khelms at zcorum.com>
> >Odd how the graphing for the top 1000 Usenet servers showed exactly the
> >pattern I predicted.
> >On Mar 2, 2015 3:46 PM, "Barry Shein" <bzs at world.std.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>  > Anything based on NNTP would be extremely asymmetric without
> significant
> >>  > changes to the protocol or human behavior.
> >>  >
> >>  > We ran significant Usenet servers with binaries for nearly 20 years
> and
> >>  > without for another 5 and the servers' traffic was heavily
> asymmetric.
> >>  > On Mar 1, 2015 9:11 AM, "Miles Fidelman" <mfidelman at meetinghouse.net
> >
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> With all due respect it's like people act purposely obtuse just to
> >> argue.
> >>
> >> If you're a Usenet server (and most likely client) then it'll be
> >> somewhat symmetric.
> >>
> >> Depending on how many nodes you serve the bias could easily be towards
> >> upload bandwidth as msgs come in once (ideally) but you flood them to
> >> all the other servers you serve once per server, the entire traffic
> >> goes out multiple times, plus or minus various optimizations like
> >> "already have that msg" oh for the love of all that is good and holy
> >> do I have to type the entire NNTP protocol spec in here just to make
> >> sure there isn't some microscopic crack of light someone can use to
> >> misinterpret and/or pick nits about???
> >>
> >> What was the original question because I think this has degenerated
> >> into just argumentativeness, we're on the verge of spelling and
> >> grammar error flames.
> >>
> >> I don't know how anyone who claims to have run Usenet servers couldn't
> >> know all this, is it just trolling?
> >>
> >> --
> >>         -Barry Shein
> >>
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>
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