Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality

Mike Hammett nanog at
Mon Mar 2 15:23:46 UTC 2015

Your point has been made here many times as has mine. 

There's enough upstream available on enough carriers that if there were some big upload unicorn out there waiting to be harnessed... they'd be able to do it. 

All that the consumer has ever had that could benefit is P2P and offsite backup. 

Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Aled Morris" <aledm at> 
To: "Scott Helms" <khelms at> 
Cc: "NANOG" <nanog at> 
Sent: Monday, March 2, 2015 9:17:33 AM 
Subject: Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality 

On 2 March 2015 at 14:41, Scott Helms <khelms at> wrote: 

> We see customer usage patterns and satisfaction being statically the same 
> on 25/25 and 25/8 accounts. The same is true when we look at 50/50 versus 
> 50/12 accounts. 

perhaps because there are no widely-deployed applications that are designed 
with the expectation of reasonable upstream bandwidth. Average users 
haven't got into the mindset that they can use lots of upstream (because 
mainly, they can't.) Without really knowing what they could have, they're 
happy with what they've got. 

You've asked them if they're happy with the eggs, and in finding they were, 
declared nobody wanted for chicken. 


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