The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query)

Seth Mattinen sethm at
Tue Sep 4 16:31:49 UTC 2012

On 9/4/12 9:05 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "John Peach" <john-nanog at>
>> On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:57:38 -0400 (EDT)
>> Jay Ashworth <jra at> wrote:
>>> SMTP Auth to *arbitrary remote domains' MX servers*? Am I missing
>>> something,
>>> or are you?
>> I run an MTA on my server and auth to that from laptops and other
>> clients. Relaying allowed for authorised users.
> So, in other words, it's ok to rant and stomp our feet about the end-to-end
> architecture and how critical it is to support in order to diss NAT, but 
> we're required to ignore it when discussing SMTP?
> I'm not sure I'm following, there.

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