The End-To-End Internet (was Re: Blocking MX query)

Jay Ashworth jra at
Tue Sep 4 16:05:07 UTC 2012

----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Peach" <john-nanog at>

> On Tue, 4 Sep 2012 11:57:38 -0400 (EDT)
> Jay Ashworth <jra at> wrote:
> > SMTP Auth to *arbitrary remote domains' MX servers*? Am I missing
> > something,
> > or are you?
> I run an MTA on my server and auth to that from laptops and other
> clients. Relaying allowed for authorised users.

So, in other words, it's ok to rant and stomp our feet about the end-to-end
architecture and how critical it is to support in order to diss NAT, but 
we're required to ignore it when discussing SMTP?

I'm not sure I'm following, there.

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