Request Spamhaus contact

Mon Jan 17 23:49:42 UTC 2011

On Mon, 17 Jan 2011 18:35:22 -0500
Jeffrey Lyon <jeffrey.lyon at blacklotus.net> wrote:

> William,
> 
> I'm not certain that any Black Lotus IP's are even connected to EFnet.

Maybe not presently, but your company has a history in the IRC
community.  And it's not a history I would define as "good."

A history of selling "protection" which was in reality not a technical
measure (infact, we know this because back then your employees said
outright that DDoS mitigation was being done after the point, so no
fancy IntruGuard-like stuff going on there.) but instead an
intimidation measure.  As in, "DDoS wars", "mutually-assured DoS", so
on.  Kinda like FooNet/Atrivo/etc.  Actually, *exactly* like
FooNet/Atrivo/etc.

> Secondly, we're more than happy to act on any data presented to us if
> they actually care to present it to us before listing the entire ISP.

When you keep in mind that many people involved in the anti-abuse
community originate from the IRC community, then it should be no
surprise that they would not wish to waste their time dealing with
people who were part of the "protection racket" of olden days.

> 
> I'm not sure what non-spam related "e-trash" has to do this any of
> this.

The fact that you willingly pollute the internet as a whole with SEO
"optimization" pages says a lot about your company.  In my opinion SEO
"optimization" pages like myspace-codes.com *are* spam.  That is the
same opinion held by many others.

Do not expect any pity from the rest of us who bust our proverbial
asses to keep our netspace clean.

William