Is Cisco equpiment de facto for you?

Thu Jan 13 21:20:57 UTC 2011

On Jan 13, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Jack Bates wrote:

> On 1/13/2011 1:48 PM, Michael Ruiz wrote:
>> Yeah another thing I love about the JUNOS is the rollback command.
Whew
>> I can tell you a few times where that has saved my bacon a few times
and
>> the commit and check command.:-)
> 
> Cisco IOS has a similar feature.
> 
> reload in 5
> make changes
> verify things are working
> reload cancel
> 
> It's a little different on a redundant processor system, as you have
to reload both processors. It's also a 2-20 minute outage while you
reload, but it does beat 2 hour drives.
> 
> 
> Jack

>Not at all the same... With JunOS, I can have the changes I made
running for days, but, when some problem is later discovered I can still
rollback to >the previous (or several revisions back). I can easily
compare the current config to several previous revisions, etc.

>Additionally, with JunOS I can make all my changes, verify them
syntactically, compare the changes made to the previous configuration
all without having >the changes take effect during the process. Then,
when I'm satisfied I have it right, I commit the configuration. If
you've ever had to play the IOS ACL >rotation game, you know how
wonderful this feature is.

>Cisco's half-hearted attempt to play catch-up here is woefully
inadequate.

>Owen

		I agree.  That is the really neat feature about the
rollback command.  Like I said before it has saved me more ways the one.
:-)

-----Original Message-----
From: Owen DeLong [mailto:owen at delong.com] 
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2011 2:59 PM
To: Jack Bates
Cc: Michael Ruiz; nanog at nanog.org
Subject: Re: Is Cisco equpiment de facto for you?

On Jan 13, 2011, at 11:51 AM, Jack Bates wrote:

> On 1/13/2011 1:48 PM, Michael Ruiz wrote:
>> Yeah another thing I love about the JUNOS is the rollback command.
Whew
>> I can tell you a few times where that has saved my bacon a few times
and
>> the commit and check command.:-)
> 
> Cisco IOS has a similar feature.
> 
> reload in 5
> make changes
> verify things are working
> reload cancel
> 
> It's a little different on a redundant processor system, as you have
to reload both processors. It's also a 2-20 minute outage while you
reload, but it does beat 2 hour drives.
> 
> 
> Jack

Not at all the same... With JunOS, I can have the changes I made running
for days, but, when some problem is later discovered I can still
rollback to the previous (or several revisions back). I can easily
compare the current config to several previous revisions, etc.

Additionally, with JunOS I can make all my changes, verify them
syntactically, compare the changes made to the previous configuration
all without having the changes take effect during the process. Then,
when I'm satisfied I have it right, I commit the configuration. If
you've ever had to play the IOS ACL rotation game, you know how
wonderful this feature is.

Cisco's half-hearted attempt to play catch-up here is woefully
inadequate.

Owen