Spamhaus and Barracuda Networks BRBL

Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.lists at gmail.com
Sun Feb 21 23:40:49 CST 2010


Is it your position that, as a vendor of antispam services, nobody
else should offer their services for a fee?

That would be strange indeed.

On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 5:41 AM, Dean Drako <drako at barracuda.com> wrote:
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> With respect to Barracuda Networks and Spamhaus.
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> I expect, but I do not know, that Spamhaus probes on port 25
> in order to identify Barracuda Spam and Virus Firewalls and then block
> their access to their RBL.  Many Barracuda customers have been
> cut off without warning causing them trouble and pain.
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> Barracuda attempted to find a deal that would work for licensing
> Spamhaus for our products, however, spamhaus's desire for money
> could not be met without significantly increasing the price to
> each of our customers.    They wanted us to charge the
> spamhaus feed price to each of our customers.
> We tried to find an arrangement for a long time.   I personally
> love the work that spamhaus has done. I was disappointed that we could
> not find an arrangement once they changed into a commercial entity and
> started charging customers.  When they were providing a free
> service we promoted them strongly, but when they started charging
> the customers that really used it, we had to part ways.
> It is a pity.
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> We recommend customers use only Barracuda's Free RBL:  "BRBL"
> and this is now built into the Barracuda Spam and Virus Firewall.
> http://www.barracudacentral.org/rbl
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> The BRBL is provided at no charge to anyone who wants to use it (even
> non barracuda customers).
> The BRBL has a full time staff that answers phone and email
> to correct any false positives and handle removal requests -- unlike competing
> services that charge money and who do not provide a staff.   We will consider
> providing data feeds if anyone has interest.  We currently provide
> the BRBL as a free service.  We make no claims about it being better
> or worse than any other RBL.   It does use a massive amount of data in
> order to determine which IP's should be on the list. Others have made claims
> about its accuracy and say great things about it.  Others complain that
> we unjustly block them, however, 99.9% of the people who are blocked and who contact
> us find a BOT in their network.
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> Sincerely,
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> Dean Drako
> CEO Barracuda Networks
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Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists at gmail.com)




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