Lightly used IP addresses

Jeffrey Lyon jeffrey.lyon at
Sat Aug 14 04:32:35 UTC 2010


I will concur with Randy that much of the travel that ARIN funds is
excessive. ARIN has a booth at trade shows so i'm going to guess that
entire setup with travel costs about $20,000 - 50,000 per show. Why?
To convince me to use ARIN for my IP space needs? To convince us to
switch to IPv6? I'm not really understanding this, ARIN can hear from
the community for free and without spending tens of thousands of

Why can't we save that money and use it to provide tangible services,
like providing advisory and implementation assistance for companies
wanting to convert to IPv6? We could use it to fund investigations
targeting IP space abuse (see my previous post a few minutes back).

Best regards, Jeff

On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 8:53 AM, John Curran <jcurran at> wrote:
> On Aug 14, 2010, at 12:17 AM, Randy Bush wrote:
>> thanks for reaffirming that talking to arin is a waste of time.
> If you're going to recommend that we not pay for travel for the
> ARIN AC, I'm going to recommend otherwise and point out that the
> AC members need to hear from the community, and that's often in
> person and at the joint ARIN/NANOG meetings, etc. I can't speak
> to the strength of your arguments for eliminating travel, but I
> will carry them to the Board as well, if you use the suggestion
> process.
> /John
> John Curran
> President and CEO

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